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  • J jon-nyc
    9 Jun 2020, 17:11

    In the event none of the suburbs ever joined, so it still just polices the city.

    I think the move cut the average pay/benefits package by half.

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    Loki
    wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 18:42 last edited by
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    @jon-nyc said in Defund the Police:

    In the event none of the suburbs ever joined, so it still just polices the city.

    I think the move cut the average pay/benefits package by half.

    In that sense defunding of the police is accurate.

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      Horace
      wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 22:35 last edited by
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      This issue has become similar to the immigration debate. As it became necessary for people to say out loud that they do believe immigration laws have a place in society, or to explicitly deny that, it now seems necessary for us to say out loud that police are useful and deserving of our tax dollars, or to explicitly deny that.

      Education is extremely important.

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 22:38 last edited by
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        Explicitly denying it still seems quite rare.

        But there's probably a lot of 'motte and bailey' arguments being adopted, so it's hard to say.

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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          Rainman
          wrote on 10 Jun 2020, 01:16 last edited by
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          I watched the MSM news tonight, I think ABC.
          Wow, we're in trouble, at least based on their segments. So incredibly one-sided and biased, I'm sure some would quip "Pravda."
          If politicians will not stick up for anything, seems to me there will be some police departments that will need to push back. If a police department has blue flu (if that's what it's called), that may be a necessary wake up call to trigger some reasonableness.

          There is only one politician that stands up, and that is Trump. But if he keeps tweeting that stupid crazy shit like he did today. . .

          I figured maybe he is trying to get himself banned on Twitter, for reasons I can't figure. If not that, then he really is a pompous ass and a bully, and will lose in November based upon his steady stream of nonsense.

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            Axtremus
            wrote on 17 Jun 2020, 12:31 last edited by
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            Donald Trump is defunding the police
            He’s proposed cuts in budget after budget, and is holding up needed fiscal aid.
            https://www.vox.com/2020/6/16/21286669/donald-trump-is-defunding-the-police

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              Copper
              wrote on 17 Jun 2020, 15:48 last edited by
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              Good

              Stop spending

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                George K
                wrote on 5 Jul 2020, 12:10 last edited by
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                Apparently this cop was suspended - still funny.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • G George K
                  5 Jul 2020, 12:10

                  Apparently this cop was suspended - still funny.

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                  Rainman
                  wrote on 5 Jul 2020, 19:06 last edited by
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                  @George-K said in Defund the Police:

                  Apparently this cop was suspended - still funny.

                  George, the "Link to Tweet" showed up as part of your post. That worked great and yes, funny and ironic!

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                  • A Axtremus
                    17 Jun 2020, 12:31

                    Donald Trump is defunding the police
                    He’s proposed cuts in budget after budget, and is holding up needed fiscal aid.
                    https://www.vox.com/2020/6/16/21286669/donald-trump-is-defunding-the-police

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                    Larry
                    wrote on 5 Jul 2020, 23:14 last edited by
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                    @Axtremus said in Defund the Police:

                    Donald Trump is defunding the police
                    He’s proposed cuts in budget after budget, and is holding up needed fiscal aid.
                    https://www.vox.com/2020/6/16/21286669/donald-trump-is-defunding-the-police

                    Are you truly that fucking stupid? COPS has Jack shit to do with police. It's the "Community Oriented Protection Services". In other words, it's another Democrat waste of money to pay a bunch of leftwing nutjobs to go around their community and ask the thugs if they want to sign up for finger painting classes.

                    This is why none of you dumbass democrats should be trusted. All up and down the chain, nothing but morons.

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                      Loki
                      wrote on 2 Aug 2020, 18:58 last edited by Loki 8 Feb 2020, 18:58
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                      https://nypost.com/2020/08/02/there-have-now-been-more-nyc-shootings-this-year-than-in-all-of-2019/

                      Can’t blame the violence on federal officers.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 2 Aug 2020, 19:03 last edited by
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                        Yeah Chicago has similar gains. Probably many cities.

                        If only there existed a national movement focused on black lives that had some sway with our municipal governments. They could talk some sense into these defunding efforts.

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                        • J jon-nyc
                          2 Aug 2020, 19:03

                          Yeah Chicago has similar gains. Probably many cities.

                          If only there existed a national movement focused on black lives that had some sway with our municipal governments. They could talk some sense into these defunding efforts.

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                          Loki
                          wrote on 2 Aug 2020, 19:05 last edited by
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                          @jon-nyc said in Defund the Police:

                          Yeah Chicago has similar gains. Probably many cities.

                          If only there existed a national movement focused on black lives that had some sway with our municipal governments. They could talk some sense into these defunding efforts.

                          In the short run at least BLM could actually have the net effect of having a negative effect? What what a dashboard look like?

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 2 Aug 2020, 19:13 last edited by
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                            This isn’t new nor was it not predicted by me and many others. Google ‘Ferguson Effect’.

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                            • J jon-nyc
                              2 Aug 2020, 19:13

                              This isn’t new nor was it not predicted by me and many others. Google ‘Ferguson Effect’.

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                              Loki
                              wrote on 2 Aug 2020, 19:23 last edited by
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                              @jon-nyc said in Defund the Police:

                              This isn’t new nor was it not predicted by me and many others. Google ‘Ferguson Effect’.

                              All true but it is certainly worth repeating. Never will see MSM highlighting it or justifying as necessary sacrifice.

                              Mention it to most liberals and watch their heads explode.

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