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What are you listening to - Podcast Edition?

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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
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    Sam Harris finally weighed in. I've been waiting for that one.

    Link to video

    He starts out very weakly, by saying Trump will now have all three branches of government, including the Supreme Court. That is a terribly politicized perspective on the Supreme Court. I remain confident that the constitution has the Supreme Court, rather than Trump.

    Beyond that, Sam accurately lays the defeat of his favored Democrats, at the feet of the cultural craziness of trans, DEI, border, etc, all of which, from the left, are dominated by the religious self-righteousness of fringe activists and academia.

    I see no inclination amongst those sorts to do any self-reflection. This makes sense, when one recognizes it as a religion. If it's the meaning of life to be on the religious right side of history, it doesn't really matter what's on the other side of that scale. It will remain the right thing to do, to follow one's virtue, no matter the cost. You might say, the end game is to die a decent person, rather than make any incremental differences towards the good. You might recognize this sort of attitude in the writings of a certain pastor we're familiar with.

    Education is extremely important.

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      Yeah, I thought Sam did a good job of noting the detriment of the Dem's support the trans activist community. That issue alone may have caused the loss though I still think Harris's answer as to how her policies might differ from Biden's was also pretty devastating.

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      • HoraceH Offline
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        Horace
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        #205

        He ended with a long litany of the damage Trump has done and all of Trump's inadequacies. Somehow he got stuck in the idea that anybody who voted for him was "fine with all of that". Sam became characteristically unable to see nuance, once his TDS kicked in.

        Education is extremely important.

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          Horace
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          #206

          On Al Franken's podcast today, the guest described Trump's plan to "pardon January 6 rioters" as a plan to create a personal armed militia. Franken nodded solemnly. Serious stuff.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • HoraceH Horace

            He ended with a long litany of the damage Trump has done and all of Trump's inadequacies. Somehow he got stuck in the idea that anybody who voted for him was "fine with all of that". Sam became characteristically unable to see nuance, once his TDS kicked in.

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            George K
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            @Horace said in What are you listening to - Podcast Edition?:

            He ended with a long litany of the damage Trump has done

            Don't feel like finding it.

            Can you summarize the litany?

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • HoraceH Horace

              On Al Franken's podcast today, the guest described Trump's plan to "pardon January 6 rioters" as a plan to create a personal armed militia. Franken nodded solemnly. Serious stuff.

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              @Horace said in What are you listening to - Podcast Edition?:

              plan to create a personal armed militia.

              Will Jolly join?

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              • George KG George K

                @Horace said in What are you listening to - Podcast Edition?:

                He ended with a long litany of the damage Trump has done

                Don't feel like finding it.

                Can you summarize the litany?

                HoraceH Offline
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                Horace
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                #209

                @George-K said in What are you listening to - Podcast Edition?:

                @Horace said in What are you listening to - Podcast Edition?:

                He ended with a long litany of the damage Trump has done

                Don't feel like finding it.

                Can you summarize the litany?

                The punch line goes something like this:

                1. Sam imagines there would have been a civil war if the election was close and Trump lost after Kamala made a late comeback.
                2. Sam blames Trump for that civil war.

                My take? There wouldn't have been a civil war.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • HoraceH Offline
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                  Horace
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                  #210

                  I think Sam was doing what a lot of never-Trumpers who wrote catastrophic checks leading up to the election, are doing. He's hedging his bets by concentrating on stuff that Trump has already done, and saying very little about what he thinks this upcoming administration will actually do. There'll be plenty of this subtle repositioning, as people prepare for any reputational hit they may take, if the next four years are successful.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • CopperC Copper

                    @Horace said in What are you listening to - Podcast Edition?:

                    plan to create a personal armed militia.

                    Will Jolly join?

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                    @Copper said in What are you listening to - Podcast Edition?:

                    @Horace said in What are you listening to - Podcast Edition?:

                    plan to create a personal armed militia.

                    Will Jolly join?

                    Have gun. Will travel. 🤠

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • HoraceH Offline
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                      Horace
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                      Ezra was doing some more self reflection on his party and how it started losing minorities to Trump. He got into the nuts and bolts that I’ve only ever heard from conservative pundits. Like, in the rooms where Dem strategy happens, you’ll often have one person of color, and they’ll be given special deference, and they’ll be “speaking for their people”, but they’re not actually speaking for their people. They are just parroting progressive-approved identity politics, and it’s not necessarily resonant with the people they claim to represent, who aren’t in that room. (Because they have real jobs.)

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        Horace
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                        #213

                        Ezra Klein's wife sighting in Jon Stewart's most recent podcast. I'd never seen or heard her. Quite a lovely woman. And to the credit of the lefties engaged in this discussion, I didn't hear much in the way of insanity.

                        Link to video

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          Kamala's campaign strategists break their silence. I was curious how they'd explain themselves about Kamala not being prepared with an answer to what she would have done differently from Biden. The answer can be heard starting at 21:30. But they don't actually have an answer. They don't think any mistakes were made on that front, and that her inability say anything at all that so much as sounds like she's given the question some thought, well, that was the strategy. Any answer she might have given, would not have been good enough for the electorate. So the non-answer was just as good as anything else. Also, Vice Presidents don't break with their presidents, except when Pence broke with Trump after Trump stormed the Capitol. They think the political norm of vice presidents never disagreeing with their presidents is too important to break for a campaign, even a campaign for our very democracy.

                          These are smart and serious people, and it is a real shame they weren't able to retain power.

                          Link to video

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            Kamala's campaign strategists break their silence. I was curious how they'd explain themselves about Kamala not being prepared with an answer to what she would have done differently from Biden. The answer can be heard starting at 21:30. But they don't actually have an answer. They don't think any mistakes were made on that front, and that her inability say anything at all that so much as sounds like she's given the question some thought, well, that was the strategy. Any answer she might have given, would not have been good enough for the electorate. So the non-answer was just as good as anything else. Also, Vice Presidents don't break with their presidents, except when Pence broke with Trump after Trump stormed the Capitol. They think the political norm of vice presidents never disagreeing with their presidents is too important to break for a campaign, even a campaign for our very democracy.

                            These are smart and serious people, and it is a real shame they weren't able to retain power.

                            Link to video

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                            @Horace Kind of like people with an addiction. Until they can acknowledge they have a problem, they can never be cured.

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                              The comments are interesting. 100% disapproval. Those campaign strategists should be able to understand at least that.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                There was one Democrat strategy guy I heard in an interview roundtable with other democrat strategists. The others were argueing that the economy was the issue, etc. He said, no, the issue was that we were out of touch. You are not going to the vote of someone who is struggling to get by on $10/hour and you tell him he is privileged because he is white.

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                                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                  There was one Democrat strategy guy I heard in an interview roundtable with other democrat strategists. The others were argueing that the economy was the issue, etc. He said, no, the issue was that we were out of touch. You are not going to the vote of someone who is struggling to get by on $10/hour and you tell him he is privileged because he is white.

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                                  @taiwan_girl said in What are you listening to - Podcast Edition?:

                                  You are not going to the vote of someone who is struggling to get by on $10/hour and you tell him he is privileged because he is white.

                                  The identity politics thing is played out, and now mostly resides in the hearts and minds of educated liberal white women, and the men who love them.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    Very much enjoyed this conversation on Tucker's show, with a doctor who's been in the "wellness rather than treatment" camp for a long time. "We have a food industry that knows nothing about health, and a health industry that knows nothing about food". That's the gist.

                                    There's a special treat for Tucker haters in there, where the doctor is making an analogy about how uneducated people can be, and says "I mean, we're still arguing about evolution!", then he visibly catches himself and diverts the analogy to "or, we're still arguing about whether the earth is flat!".

                                    I think a Trump administration with RFK Jr in the cabinet will possibly make some inroads on education about this stuff.

                                    Link to video

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      Remember when the GOP pilloried Bloomberg for trying to limit soda container sizes, banning trans fats, and making food chains post calorie counts?

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        Remember when the GOP pilloried Bloomberg for trying to limit soda container sizes, banning trans fats, and making food chains post calorie counts?

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                                        @jon-nyc said in What are you listening to - Podcast Edition?:

                                        Remember when the GOP pilloried Bloomberg for trying to limit soda container sizes, banning trans fats, and making food chains post calorie counts?

                                        Messaging rather than regulations is what I'm hoping for. For better or worse, lots of eyes and ears on what this administration does and says. This is one way in which it can be for the better. It's undeniable that consumption habits are a huge problem, and one can only educate out of that, rather than regulate out of it.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          Re education, are there many people out there that aren’t aware that the SAD (standard American diet) is grossly unhealthy? Serious question.

                                          Of course Trump could make it ‘cool’ for a certain type of person to care. But it’s hard to imagine him taking the advice himself.

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                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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