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I wonder if Mexico is paying for it

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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 4 Jun 2020, 20:52 last edited by
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    Lincoln was skeptical about personal protection, saying there'd be no stopping 'any man who wants to trade his life for mine'.

    You were warned.

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      4 Jun 2020, 20:52

      Lincoln was skeptical about personal protection, saying there'd be no stopping 'any man who wants to trade his life for mine'.

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      Jolly
      wrote on 4 Jun 2020, 20:52 last edited by
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      @jon-nyc said in I wonder if Mexico is paying for it:

      Lincoln was skeptical about personal protection, saying there'd be no stopping 'any man who wants to trade his life for mine'.

      BTW, that's still the case.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 4 Jun 2020, 20:54 last edited by
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        I don't know, the secret service does a pretty good job of preventing even that.

        You were warned.

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        • J jon-nyc
          4 Jun 2020, 20:50

          Truman walked across the street to do his own banking too.

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          George K
          wrote on 4 Jun 2020, 21:01 last edited by
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          @jon-nyc said in I wonder if Mexico is paying for it:

          Truman walked across the street to do his own banking too.

          And almost got shot while going to work one day (I believe he was living in the Naval Observatory while the White House was being remodeled, though I I may be wrong on that detail).

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            4 Jun 2020, 20:54

            I don't know, the secret service does a pretty good job of preventing even that.

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            Jolly
            wrote on 4 Jun 2020, 21:05 last edited by
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            @jon-nyc said in I wonder if Mexico is paying for it:

            I don't know, the secret service does a pretty good job of preventing even that.

            They try, but they can't.

            As an exercise in what if, I went through the steps in my head to assassinate a former president. I was in the right building, with a clear shot to where he was speaking. I could have nailed that shot. But it definitely would have been a one-way act, as I wouldn't have made it a mile down the street.

            And if idiot me can see how easily this could be done, there are multiple other ways to do it.

            If I was on the Presidential detail, I would be in a constant state of fear. Too many nutcases, too hard to protect POTUS completely.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              Klaus
              wrote on 4 Jun 2020, 22:32 last edited by Klaus 6 Apr 2020, 22:32
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              I assume there are thousands of young men who would happily die if they could take a POTUS with them. It's a fast way to get famous.

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 4 Jun 2020, 22:47 last edited by jon-nyc 6 Apr 2020, 22:48
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                Jolly - I think it’s a lot easier for someone to find themselves in a spot where they say ‘man if I had a gun now I’d have a good shot’ then to plan ahead and do it.

                The secret service limits the amount of foreknowledge you can have about locations, scouts vulnerable spots in advance, and looks for stored weapons.

                Obviously it’s not totally impossible, but it hasn’t happened in over half a century and no ones gotten close in almost four decades, but I’m sure that’s not not for lack of trying.

                You were warned.

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                  4 Jun 2020, 22:47

                  Jolly - I think it’s a lot easier for someone to find themselves in a spot where they say ‘man if I had a gun now I’d have a good shot’ then to plan ahead and do it.

                  The secret service limits the amount of foreknowledge you can have about locations, scouts vulnerable spots in advance, and looks for stored weapons.

                  Obviously it’s not totally impossible, but it hasn’t happened in over half a century and no ones gotten close in almost four decades, but I’m sure that’s not not for lack of trying.

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 4 Jun 2020, 23:08 last edited by Jolly 6 Apr 2020, 23:10
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                  @jon-nyc said in I wonder if Mexico is paying for it:

                  Jolly - I think it’s a lot easier for someone to find themselves in a spot where they say ‘man if I had a gun now I’d have a good shot’ then to plan ahead and do it.

                  The secret service limits the amount of foreknowledge you can have about locations, scouts vulnerable spots in advance, and looks for stored weapons.

                  Obviously it’s not totally impossible, but it hasn’t happened in over half a century and no ones gotten close in almost four decades, but I’m sure that’s not not for lack of trying.

                  I could have walked down the stairs and out the building to my truck, and had a .270 in my hands in less than two minutes.

                  Thank God I have no intention of ever doing something so heinous. But as I said, there are nuts out there. Ask Steve Scalise.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 4 Jun 2020, 23:18 last edited by jon-nyc 6 Apr 2020, 23:22
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                    From what I’ve read, when such a spot exists the secret service has it surveilled one way or another.

                    Again I offer 40 years no shootings as evidence. People haven’t gotten less crazy or less interested in making a name for themselves in that time frame.

                    I’m just talking about the president of course.

                    I’m a bit surprised no one’s gone after specific scotus members yet.

                    You were warned.

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                      taiwan_girl
                      wrote on 5 Jun 2020, 00:42 last edited by
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                      I agree with Jolly. If someone is determine enough, smart enough, has enough money, and able to plan long term, have extreme patience, then it is impossible to protect anyone completely, even I think the President of the US.

                      Of course, many of the crazy people fortunately are not able to plan long term and are not smart enough to do it. For that i am super glad!!!!

                      I think Jolly(?) posted something about a sniper from Canada who shot someone from 1.5 km or something crazy like that?

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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on 5 Jun 2020, 04:02 last edited by
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                        Saw Clinton at an outdoor event in 1994. I was near the back of the crowd. Reached into my coat pocket to get out a smoke and noticed 2 Agents watching me very carefully with hands on the butts of their weapons.

                        The Brad

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 5 Jun 2020, 04:22 last edited by
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                          Still, if you were willing to die, could you have gotten a shot of two off? Life isn't the movies...It takes a head shot for immediate neutralization.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            5 Jun 2020, 04:22

                            Still, if you were willing to die, could you have gotten a shot of two off? Life isn't the movies...It takes a head shot for immediate neutralization.

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on 5 Jun 2020, 04:26 last edited by
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                            @Jolly 100 yards with a handgun? Nope, probably not.

                            The Brad

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                              Axtremus
                              wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 10:39 last edited by
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                              After a massive “show of force”, Trump is confined in a cage.

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