Looks like Finland will apply for NATO membership.
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wrote on 14 May 2022, 14:43 last edited by
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wrote on 14 May 2022, 14:46 last edited by
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wrote on 14 May 2022, 14:47 last edited by
@George-K said in Looks like Finland will apply for NATO membership.:
...every independent nation maximizes its security
Not really. Sometimes, certain political parties in independent democratic nations gather votes by intentionally minimizing the nation's security.
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wrote on 14 May 2022, 15:31 last edited by
That was decently played on Finland's part.
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wrote on 15 May 2022, 17:03 last edited by
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wrote on 15 May 2022, 19:07 last edited by Renauda
Turkey has now stated it will not block either Finland or Sweden from becoming NATO members.
Putin wanted less NATO as a war aim and is now getting even more NATO than he ever imagined.
All I can say is, sad Christmas for Putin.
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Turkey has now stated it will not block either Finland or Sweden from becoming NATO members.
Putin wanted less NATO as a war aim and is now getting even more NATO than he ever imagined.
All I can say is, sad Christmas for Putin.
wrote on 15 May 2022, 19:42 last edited by@Renauda said in Looks like Finland will apply for NATO membership.:
Turkey has now stated it will not block either Finland or Sweden from becoming NATO members.
Somewhere I read that one country can block other nations from joining. This is a good thing.
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wrote on 16 May 2022, 13:45 last edited by
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wrote on 16 May 2022, 13:53 last edited by
This just has to be the end of Putin. He has set his nation back decades in every imaginable way.
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This just has to be the end of Putin. He has set his nation back decades in every imaginable way.
wrote on 16 May 2022, 14:29 last edited by@Mik and also Renauda:
It is amazing, how people so often fail to recognize the catalytic consequences of their actions. "So-and-so is doing X, so I will thwart him by doing Y," not considering that so-and-so might change as a result of my Y.
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Turkey has now stated it will not block either Finland or Sweden from becoming NATO members.
Putin wanted less NATO as a war aim and is now getting even more NATO than he ever imagined.
All I can say is, sad Christmas for Putin.
wrote on 16 May 2022, 14:38 last edited by@Renauda said in Looks like Finland will apply for NATO membership.:
Turkey has now stated it will not block either Finland or Sweden from becoming NATO members.
Putin wanted less NATO as a war aim and is now getting even more NATO than he ever imagined.
All I can say is, sad Christmas for Putin.
Wonder what the Turks got in return?
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@Mik and also Renauda:
It is amazing, how people so often fail to recognize the catalytic consequences of their actions. "So-and-so is doing X, so I will thwart him by doing Y," not considering that so-and-so might change as a result of my Y.
wrote on 16 May 2022, 15:26 last edited by RenaudaMy spouse has a theory that all this would have been gamed out beforehand and that Putin will now proceed to launch a internal blood purge to rid the country of imagined enemies of the people reminiscent of Stalin.
It is plausible and he may attempt such at the top but I doubt that it would be without concerted and determined opposition from within unlike the 1930’s.
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wrote on 16 May 2022, 15:38 last edited by
We are really going through the looking glass here. Now Putin says NATO expansion is no big deal - no threat to Russia.
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My spouse has a theory that all this would have been gamed out beforehand and that Putin will now proceed to launch a internal blood purge to rid the country of imagined enemies of the people reminiscent of Stalin.
It is plausible and he may attempt such at the top but I doubt that it would be without concerted and determined opposition from within unlike the 1930’s.
wrote on 16 May 2022, 18:38 last edited by@Renauda said in Looks like Finland will apply for NATO membership.:
My spouse has a theory that all this would have been gamed out beforehand and that Putin will now proceed to launch a internal blood purge to rid the country of imagined enemies of the people reminiscent of Stalin.
It is plausible and he may attempt such at the top but I doubt that it would be without concerted and determined opposition from within unlike the 1930’s.
How very Russian...
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@Renauda said in Looks like Finland will apply for NATO membership.:
Turkey has now stated it will not block either Finland or Sweden from becoming NATO members.
Putin wanted less NATO as a war aim and is now getting even more NATO than he ever imagined.
All I can say is, sad Christmas for Putin.
Wonder what the Turks got in return?
wrote on 16 May 2022, 23:08 last edited by@Jolly said in Looks like Finland will apply for NATO membership.:
@Renauda said in Looks like Finland will apply for NATO membership.:
Turkey has now stated it will not block either Finland or Sweden from becoming NATO members.
Putin wanted less NATO as a war aim and is now getting even more NATO than he ever imagined.
All I can say is, sad Christmas for Putin.
Wonder what the Turks got in return?
Apparently not enough baksheesh:
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/16/russia-finland-sweden-nato-ukraine-war
Bastards.
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@Jolly said in Looks like Finland will apply for NATO membership.:
@Renauda said in Looks like Finland will apply for NATO membership.:
Turkey has now stated it will not block either Finland or Sweden from becoming NATO members.
Putin wanted less NATO as a war aim and is now getting even more NATO than he ever imagined.
All I can say is, sad Christmas for Putin.
Wonder what the Turks got in return?
Apparently not enough baksheesh:
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/16/russia-finland-sweden-nato-ukraine-war
Bastards.
wrote on 16 May 2022, 23:15 last edited by@Renauda said in Looks like Finland will apply for NATO membership.:
Bastards.
Interesting , and sad.
Not surprising, though. Turkey's always been a wild-card in all this BS.
I have to agree and wonder what pressure was applied by Putin vs the rest of NATO in getting to this point.
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wrote on 17 May 2022, 00:06 last edited by
Not really surprising if you look at Turkey’s always precarious geographic position.
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@Renauda said in Looks like Finland will apply for NATO membership.:
Bastards.
Interesting , and sad.
Not surprising, though. Turkey's always been a wild-card in all this BS.
I have to agree and wonder what pressure was applied by Putin vs the rest of NATO in getting to this point.
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Erdogan may yet change his mind, again. Curious though that he waited this long to express his concerns. More baksheesh might calm his mind.
wrote on 17 May 2022, 01:03 last edited by@Renauda said in Looks like Finland will apply for NATO membership.:
Erdogan may yet change his mind, again.
He's been quite the wild card, hasn't he? Even before the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
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wrote on 17 May 2022, 01:22 last edited by
So hint that we might kick Turkey out of NATO.
