"Excess" Votes?
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@Horace said in "Excess" Votes?:
What I know for an absolute fact is that the motivation to win at any cost, including fraud, was more than plentiful enough amongst the TDS crowd
A complete inability to accept the reality of defeat was pretty noticeable amongst the other team. I can't imagine where they got it from.
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@Jolly said in "Excess" Votes?:
I think we have a problem. The majority of the American public thinks we have a problem! So quit sitting on your mounds of data analysis shit, admit that the general public might be right, and help solve the problem.
I'm all for some hyper-centralized, national ID voter system. No issue with it.
And, I agree, there is much less faith in our election now than there was during the 2016 cycle. But this whole problem has been manufactured by irresponsible people.
Step 1 is for the accusers to put up or shut up. Innocent until proven guilty and all that shit. Where's the evidence? Where are the court cases? Again - Trump's chief law enforcement official though Trump was off his rocker on this.
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@xenon said in "Excess" Votes?:
@Jolly said in "Excess" Votes?:
I think we have a problem. The majority of the American public thinks we have a problem! So quit sitting on your mounds of data analysis shit, admit that the general public might be right, and help solve the problem.
I'm all for some hyper-centralized, national ID voter system. No issue with it.
And, I agree, there is much less faith in our election now than there was during the 2016 cycle. But this whole problem has been manufactured by irresponsible people.
Step 1 is for the accusers to put up or shut up. Innocent until proven guilty and all that shit. Where's the evidence? Where are the court cases? Again - Trump's chief law enforcement official though Trump was off his rocker on this.
A lot of the court cases will never see the light of day. Contested election law is very tightly written in the U.S. and it is very hard to bring a case, especially in a national election. There have been cases that have shown fraud, but the preponderance of evidence is not enough to get some cases adjudicated or the courts will not hear a case that will not overturn an election.
Or, at some point in time, even with massive irregularities, the court finally says enough. See Bush v. Gore.
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@xenon said in "Excess" Votes?:
@Jolly said in "Excess" Votes?:
I think we have a problem. The majority of the American public thinks we have a problem! So quit sitting on your mounds of data analysis shit, admit that the general public might be right, and help solve the problem.
I'm all for some hyper-centralized, national ID voter system. No issue with it.
And, I agree, there is much less faith in our election now than there was during the 2016 cycle. But this whole problem has been manufactured by irresponsible people.
Step 1 is for the accusers to put up or shut up. Innocent until proven guilty and all that shit. Where's the evidence? Where are the court cases? Again - Trump's chief law enforcement official though Trump was off his rocker on this.
You are correct that it was manufactured by irresponsible people. Where you lose the plot is in deciding who those irresponsible people are. You don't seem to see the irony of saying you support a national voter ID, but then call those calling for just that the guilty ones.
One side wants voter ID, the other side says that is racist, and wants to 1. Harvest votes 2. Extend vote by mail with no checks on it, . No ID required because,... well... black people are too stupid to go out and get an ID,..... every attempt to bring any of this in front of a court has been blocked, yet you want them to "put up or shut up" - and in a thread dealing with the very issue of "putting up" you have, without any evidence to support your claims, done nothing but ridicule them for it.
But at the same time you are utterly convinced that you have it right, no need or reason to entertain the notion that you might be wrong. As a result, trying to discuss this with you is like trying to warn a petulant 3 year old not to stick a fork in an electrical socket.
But it's ok. This seems to be a common problem among your generation. God I hope my generation wasn't this logic challenged at your age.
