"Excess" Votes?
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So...in like counties across the country, Dem turnout increased only in those counties were irregularities were alleged.
Dude, one of those counties was Fulton. Ask Larry what the reputation of Fulton County is regarding ballot integrity. I'm positive it would give Cook County a run for its money.
So look at this way...We can do this with ballots or we can eventually do it with bullets. Me, I'd prefer to do it with ballots. But the only way that will work, is if the casting and counting of ballots is beyond reproach. Period.
The people deserve no less.
So, when people seriously question the process, why aren't you leading the charge?
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
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I found his actual article.
His method for determining if fraud happened is to link to a news article about that county. Very easy to work backwards when that’s your method. How does he know there no fraud alleged in other counties? Lack of a WSJ article?
This article proves nothing.
It’s just fodder for these sort of conversations.
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@xenon said in "Excess" Votes?:
I found his actual article.
His method for determining if fraud happened is to link to a news article about that county. Very easy to work backwards when that’s your method. How does he know there no fraud alleged in other counties? Lack of a WSJ article?
This article proves nothing.
It’s just fodder for these sort of conversations.
What if you're wrong?
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@Jolly said in "Excess" Votes?:
So...in like counties across the country, Dem turnout increased only in those counties were irregularities were alleged.
Dude, one of those counties was Fulton. Ask Larry what the reputation of Fulton County is regarding ballot integrity. I'm positive it would give Cook County a run for its money.
So look at this way...We can do this with ballots or we can eventually do it with bullets. Me, I'd prefer to do it with ballots. But the only way that will work, is if the casting and counting of ballots is beyond reproach. Period.
The people deserve no less.
So, when people seriously question the process, why aren't you leading the charge?
It's dekalb county that's so bad. Fulton county is almost as bad though. Imagine yourself inline to vote and a huge black panther member carrying a ball bat tells you who you'll be voting for...
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@Larry said in "Excess" Votes?:
What if you're wrong?
I could be, but if after 1 year+ this is the best sort of evidence for fraud - especially after multiple state audits - I don’t think I am.
Not much has changed since Trump alleged fraud while votes were being counted.
Fellow TDS patient Bill Barr agrees with me.
But there's no point in arguing this - it's like trying to dissuade flat earthers. I'm sure you feel the same way about me.
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@xenon said in "Excess" Votes?:
@Larry said in "Excess" Votes?:
What if you're wrong?
I could be, but if after 1 year+ this is the best sort of evidence for fraud - especially after multiple state audits - I don’t think I am.
Not much has changed since Trump alleged fraud while votes were being counted.
Fellow TDS patient Bill Barr agrees with me.
But there's no point in arguing this - it's like trying to dissuade flat earthers. I'm sure you feel the same way about me.
Yes, I do. To compare those you disagree with to flat earthers shows your arrogance, and is insulting. It's ok though - every other instance where Trump made a claim your side disagreed with has turned out with Trump being proven correct. This one will too.
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@xenon said in "Excess" Votes?:
I found his actual article.
His method for determining if fraud happened is to link to a news article about that county. Very easy to work backwards when that’s your method. How does he know there no fraud alleged in other counties? Lack of a WSJ article?
This article proves nothing.
It’s just fodder for these sort of conversations.
Why aren't you leading the charge?
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@Jolly said in "Excess" Votes?:
@xenon said in "Excess" Votes?:
I found his actual article.
His method for determining if fraud happened is to link to a news article about that county. Very easy to work backwards when that’s your method. How does he know there no fraud alleged in other counties? Lack of a WSJ article?
This article proves nothing.
It’s just fodder for these sort of conversations.
Why aren't you leading the charge?
My job isn't to be a political operative - that's this guy's day job. Stolen election is a winning political issue right now.
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I don't give a flying fuck at a rolling donut what your day job is. I want to know what YOU are going to do about voting irregularities and voting fraud.
Sit there and mewl like an idiot about "Gee, it's not proven to my satisfaction, so I know it doesn't exist?". Lad, wars have been fought over a lot less...Probably more than one where your ancestors are from.
I think we have a problem. The majority of the American public thinks we have a problem! So quit sitting on your mounds of data analysis shit, admit that the general public might be right, and help solve the problem.
As I've said, doesn't matter who you think cheated last election (although I think most sane people have a pretty good clue - it's the same places that usually cheat in almost every election), the fact is that election integrity should be of paramount concern to the Republic, or there simply will not be one.
The Fall of Rome is well illustrated in today's American society...We have a large drone class that can make a pretty good living working about a third of their time at their jobs, many which only shuffle data around and compete for the latest buzzwords to populate the next set of corporate mantras, a judge on the highest court in the lab who can't tell the difference between a penis and a vagina, and a general theme of acceptance writ so large we are engorging toxic waste promoted as healthy for our national soul.
You're just another laisses-faire example of how fucked up the conscience of the country has become.
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What I know for an absolute fact is that the motivation to win at any cost, including fraud, was more than plentiful enough amongst the TDS crowd, many of whom were at a suicide bomber pitch. But I prefer to believe there was insufficient real fraud to reverse the rightful results, due to a lack of opportunity and fear of getting caught.
Education is extremely important.
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@Horace said in "Excess" Votes?:
What I know for an absolute fact is that the motivation to win at any cost, including fraud, was more than plentiful enough amongst the TDS crowd
A complete inability to accept the reality of defeat was pretty noticeable amongst the other team. I can't imagine where they got it from.
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@Jolly said in "Excess" Votes?:
I think we have a problem. The majority of the American public thinks we have a problem! So quit sitting on your mounds of data analysis shit, admit that the general public might be right, and help solve the problem.
I'm all for some hyper-centralized, national ID voter system. No issue with it.
And, I agree, there is much less faith in our election now than there was during the 2016 cycle. But this whole problem has been manufactured by irresponsible people.
Step 1 is for the accusers to put up or shut up. Innocent until proven guilty and all that shit. Where's the evidence? Where are the court cases? Again - Trump's chief law enforcement official though Trump was off his rocker on this.
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@xenon said in "Excess" Votes?:
@Jolly said in "Excess" Votes?:
I think we have a problem. The majority of the American public thinks we have a problem! So quit sitting on your mounds of data analysis shit, admit that the general public might be right, and help solve the problem.
I'm all for some hyper-centralized, national ID voter system. No issue with it.
And, I agree, there is much less faith in our election now than there was during the 2016 cycle. But this whole problem has been manufactured by irresponsible people.
Step 1 is for the accusers to put up or shut up. Innocent until proven guilty and all that shit. Where's the evidence? Where are the court cases? Again - Trump's chief law enforcement official though Trump was off his rocker on this.
A lot of the court cases will never see the light of day. Contested election law is very tightly written in the U.S. and it is very hard to bring a case, especially in a national election. There have been cases that have shown fraud, but the preponderance of evidence is not enough to get some cases adjudicated or the courts will not hear a case that will not overturn an election.
Or, at some point in time, even with massive irregularities, the court finally says enough. See Bush v. Gore.
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@xenon said in "Excess" Votes?:
@Jolly said in "Excess" Votes?:
I think we have a problem. The majority of the American public thinks we have a problem! So quit sitting on your mounds of data analysis shit, admit that the general public might be right, and help solve the problem.
I'm all for some hyper-centralized, national ID voter system. No issue with it.
And, I agree, there is much less faith in our election now than there was during the 2016 cycle. But this whole problem has been manufactured by irresponsible people.
Step 1 is for the accusers to put up or shut up. Innocent until proven guilty and all that shit. Where's the evidence? Where are the court cases? Again - Trump's chief law enforcement official though Trump was off his rocker on this.
You are correct that it was manufactured by irresponsible people. Where you lose the plot is in deciding who those irresponsible people are. You don't seem to see the irony of saying you support a national voter ID, but then call those calling for just that the guilty ones.
One side wants voter ID, the other side says that is racist, and wants to 1. Harvest votes 2. Extend vote by mail with no checks on it, . No ID required because,... well... black people are too stupid to go out and get an ID,..... every attempt to bring any of this in front of a court has been blocked, yet you want them to "put up or shut up" - and in a thread dealing with the very issue of "putting up" you have, without any evidence to support your claims, done nothing but ridicule them for it.
But at the same time you are utterly convinced that you have it right, no need or reason to entertain the notion that you might be wrong. As a result, trying to discuss this with you is like trying to warn a petulant 3 year old not to stick a fork in an electrical socket.
But it's ok. This seems to be a common problem among your generation. God I hope my generation wasn't this logic challenged at your age.
