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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #785

    To his credit, he changed his mind after realizing it was a mistake.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • AxtremusA Offline
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      #786

      Good thing nothing really important happens on Twitter; it’s not like he was messing with the nation’s critical infrastructures like, banking, utilities, or transportation.

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      • AxtremusA Axtremus

        Good thing nothing really important happens on Twitter; it’s not like he was messing with the nation’s critical infrastructures like, banking, utilities, or transportation.

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        George K
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        @Axtremus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

        Good thing nothing really important happens on Twitter

        Is there a social media platform on which something important does happen?

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG George K

          To his credit, he changed his mind after realizing it was a mistake.

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          jon-nyc
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          #788

          @George-K said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

          To his credit, he changed his mind after realizing it was a mistake.

          Yes but his best lawyers couldn’t get him out of the contract so he had to buy the company after all.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            jon-nyc
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            #789

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • taiwan_girlT Offline
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              #790

              https://mashable.com/article/elon-musk-x-more-advertisers-pull-back-in-2025

              As Elon Musk struggled to rebuild X's ability to generate revenue, the site suffered a mass advertiser exodus late last year, and at least some of those departures were evidently due to pro-nazi content. A few months later, Musk told advertisers "go fuck yourself."

              And this was all right before Musk shared that the former Twitter's revenue was already down by 60 percent from before his acquisition.

              It looks like 2025 isn't going to be any better for X. A new report from UK market research firm Kantar found that 26 percent of marketers are planning to reduce their ad spend on Musk's platform next year.
              According to Kantar's research, this was the "biggest recorded pullback" from any of the major global advertising platforms.

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              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                https://mashable.com/article/elon-musk-x-more-advertisers-pull-back-in-2025

                As Elon Musk struggled to rebuild X's ability to generate revenue, the site suffered a mass advertiser exodus late last year, and at least some of those departures were evidently due to pro-nazi content. A few months later, Musk told advertisers "go fuck yourself."

                And this was all right before Musk shared that the former Twitter's revenue was already down by 60 percent from before his acquisition.

                It looks like 2025 isn't going to be any better for X. A new report from UK market research firm Kantar found that 26 percent of marketers are planning to reduce their ad spend on Musk's platform next year.
                According to Kantar's research, this was the "biggest recorded pullback" from any of the major global advertising platforms.

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                Doctor Phibes
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                #791

                @taiwan_girl said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                https://mashable.com/article/elon-musk-x-more-advertisers-pull-back-in-2025

                As Elon Musk struggled to rebuild X's ability to generate revenue, the site suffered a mass advertiser exodus late last year, and at least some of those departures were evidently due to pro-nazi content. A few months later, Musk told advertisers "go fuck yourself."

                And this was all right before Musk shared that the former Twitter's revenue was already down by 60 percent from before his acquisition.

                It looks like 2025 isn't going to be any better for X. A new report from UK market research firm Kantar found that 26 percent of marketers are planning to reduce their ad spend on Musk's platform next year.
                According to Kantar's research, this was the "biggest recorded pullback" from any of the major global advertising platforms.

                Didn't he sue some companies a while back for not advertising on X?

                Because obviously that's going to bring them running back!

                I was only joking

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                  jon-nyc
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                  #792

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • KlausK Offline
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                    That data doesn't necessarily mean anything.

                    It doesn't include people using the X app.

                    It doesn't account for potential bot purges.

                    SimilarWeb does not have access to the actual data. They need to estimate it from various other data points, and that estimation can easily be off by a factor of 2.

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                      jon-nyc
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                      #794

                      Fidelity has written 80% of the value off of its investment in X.

                      https://techcrunch.com/2024/09/29/fidelity-has-cut-xs-value-by-79-since-musk-purchase/

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • HoraceH Offline
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                        #795

                        Has their user base really taken that much of a hit? Or maybe Fidelity is taking advantage of the illiquid private equity markets, which have recently tanked as per a story linked to here yesterday, for an advantageous tax write off.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          jon-nyc
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                          #796

                          They’d need a valuation model that would survive an audit. I doubt they’re fucking with it. Doesn’t mean their model is perfect. Hard to imagine how to value it, it has meme stock potential and you can’t very well model that.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            https://www.npr.org/2025/02/01/nx-s1-5283271/elon-musk-lawsuit-advertisers-boycott-new

                            Elon Musk's X broadened an existing lawsuit on Saturday to include several major brands — accusing more companies of illegally boycotting the social media platform in 2022 following Musk's acquisition.

                            The suit, which was filed last year in a federal court in Texas, initially targeted the boycott organizer, the World Federation of Advertisers, along with companies including CVS and video-streaming platform Twitch.

                            But early on Saturday, Musk's lawyers filed an amended complaint, adding several new defendants, including Lego, Nestlé, Tyson Foods, Abbott Laboratories, Colgate-Palmolive, Pinterest and Shell International.

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                              A group of investors led by Elon Musk is offering about $97.4 billion to buy the nonprofit behind OpenAI, escalating a dispute with the artificial intelligence company that Musk helped found a decade ago.

                              and

                              OpenAI CEO Sam Altman quickly rejected the unsolicited bid on Musk’s social platform X, saying, “no thank you but we will buy Twitter for $9.74 billion if you want.”

                              https://apnews.com/article/elon-musk-openai-bid-chatgpt-sam-altman-b1ad37fe4fe70e3b5d283940bd3b8215

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                              • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                                taiwan_girl
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #799

                                Morgan Stanley and other lenders to Elon Musk's Twitter takeover yesterday reportedly sold around $4.7 billion of X debt at face value.

                                This blows away expectations for the deal, in terms of both volume and pricing, and leaves creditors with only around $1.3 billion of their $12.5 billion outlay.

                                Original plans were to sell $3 billion of debt at a 10%-20% discount.

                                One explanation is that X has improved its finances, although that's still fuzzy. For example, WSJ recently reported that X's 2024 revenue includes "hundreds of millions of dollars" transferred from xAI, leaving unclear if there's been any organic top-line growth.

                                Better rationales are Musk's newfound proximity to power and the social media company's equity stake in xAI.

                                https://www.axios.com/2025/02/14/lenders-elon-musk-twitter-x-takeover

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                                  Elon Musk apparently no longer believes that crowdsourcing fact-checking through Community Notes can never be manipulated and is, thus, the best way to correct bad posts on his social media platform X.

                                  and

                                  Although other independent polling recently documented a similar increase in Zelenskyy's approval rating, NBC News reported, the specific poll cited in X notes contradicted Donald Trump's claim that Zelenskyy is unpopular, and Musk seemed to expect X notes should instead be providing context to defend Trump's viewpoint. Musk even suggested that by pointing to the supposedly government-linked poll in Community Notes, X users were spreading misinformation.

                                  "It should be utterly obvious that a Zelensky[y]-controlled poll about his OWN approval is not credible!!" Musk wrote on X.

                                  Musk's attack on Community Notes is somewhat surprising. Although he has always maintained that Community Notes aren't "perfect," he has defended Community Notes through multiple European Union probes challenging their effectiveness and declared that the goal of the crowdsourcing effort was to make X "by far the best source of truth on Earth." At CES 2025, X CEO Linda Yaccarino bragged that Community Notes are "good for the world."

                                  https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/02/elon-musk-to-fix-community-notes-after-they-contradict-trump/

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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    Yeah he’s going to ‘fix’ community notes so it doesn’t question the wrong people.

                                    Meet the new boss…..

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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