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  • J jon-nyc
    18 Oct 2023, 01:59

    Yes but it's a pilot. I assume they'll roll this out. It won't stop ads but it will greatly limit bots. I'd pay without thinking.

    I was always supportive of the idea that sending an email would cost 1 penny or whatever. Trivially unnoticeable by actual humans, catastrophic for spammers.

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    Axtremus
    wrote on 18 Nov 2023, 02:03 last edited by
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    @jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

    Yes but it's a pilot. I assume they'll roll this out. It won't stop ads but it will greatly limit bots. I'd pay without thinking.

    I was always supportive of the idea that sending an email would cost 1 penny or whatever. Trivially unnoticeable by actual humans, catastrophic for spammers.

    Make it like what the telephone used to cost: free within an organization (free PBX calls) but costs money to send email across organizations.

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      Axtremus
      wrote on 18 Nov 2023, 02:05 last edited by
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      https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/17/technology/elon-musk-twitter-x-advertisers.html

      Advertisers flee X/Twitter again, this time because Elon allegedly endorsed an antisemitic x/tweet.

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 20 Aug 2024, 13:32 last edited by
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        Only non-witches get due process.

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 20 Aug 2024, 13:33 last edited by
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          (I think he really means ‘since the Obama Depression’)

          Only non-witches get due process.

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            taiwan_girl
            wrote on 20 Aug 2024, 14:44 last edited by
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            `https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musks-x-sued-120-million-worth-of-server-parts-2024-8?op=1

            Elon Musk's X is facing yet another possible legal battle, this time over $120 million worth of unpaid IT bills.

            Taiwanese tech firm Wiwynn is suing the social media giant formerly known as Twitter for $61 million over claims it refused to pay for around $120 million in server parts after Musk took over in 2022.

            and

            In addition to the Wiwynn lawsuit, Musk is facing lawsuits from several former Twitter executives, including former CEO Parag Agrawal, over $128 million in unpaid severance.

            X is also being sued by former Twitter chairman Omid Kordestani over $20 million worth of shares and other ex-Twitter staff over unpaid bonuses, with the growing number of legal fights unlikely to help the company's reportedly sagging revenues.

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            • J jon-nyc
              20 Aug 2024, 13:33

              (I think he really means ‘since the Obama Depression’)

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              Jolly
              wrote on 20 Aug 2024, 16:30 last edited by
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              @jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

              (I think he really means ‘since the Obama Depression’)

              Works for me.

              "Own the language", the Demonrats said.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                taiwan_girl
                wrote on 30 Aug 2024, 02:10 last edited by
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                https://futurism.com/mistake-elon-musk-begged-twitter-staff-turn-off-new-feature

                In late 2022, long before multi-hyphenate billionaire Elon Musk renamed Twitter to X, rumors swirled that he was getting ready to shake up the platform's verification system.

                His proposal: charge each subscriber for the privilege of being verified without ever doing the homework of actually verifying their identity — a short-sighted and ultimately disastrous decision that Musk reportedly regretted almost immediately.

                and

                The 2022 US midterm elections took place on November 8, a day before Musk started charging users for a blue checkmark.

                When the switch was made, all hell broke loose, with countless newly verified accounts masquerading as politicians, celebrities, and companies. One account parading as Nintendo shared a viral image of Super Mario giving the finger.

                Advertisers, who had gotten wind of the mayhem, started reaching out to Twitter's sales teams, threatening to pull their ads. According to Mac and Conger's sources, Nike executives threatened to never advertise on the platform again.

                And Musk was terrified of the prospect of losing hundreds of millions of dollars in advertising revenue.

                "Turn it off," he reportedly told an engineer. "Turn it off!"

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                  George K
                  wrote on 30 Aug 2024, 11:29 last edited by
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                  To his credit, he changed his mind after realizing it was a mistake.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Axtremus
                    wrote on 30 Aug 2024, 11:38 last edited by
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                    Good thing nothing really important happens on Twitter; it’s not like he was messing with the nation’s critical infrastructures like, banking, utilities, or transportation.

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                      30 Aug 2024, 11:38

                      Good thing nothing really important happens on Twitter; it’s not like he was messing with the nation’s critical infrastructures like, banking, utilities, or transportation.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 30 Aug 2024, 11:39 last edited by
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                      @Axtremus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                      Good thing nothing really important happens on Twitter

                      Is there a social media platform on which something important does happen?

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • G George K
                        30 Aug 2024, 11:29

                        To his credit, he changed his mind after realizing it was a mistake.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 30 Aug 2024, 11:53 last edited by
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                        @George-K said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                        To his credit, he changed his mind after realizing it was a mistake.

                        Yes but his best lawyers couldn’t get him out of the contract so he had to buy the company after all.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 3 Sept 2024, 09:54 last edited by
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                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            taiwan_girl
                            wrote on 6 Sept 2024, 01:33 last edited by
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                            https://mashable.com/article/elon-musk-x-more-advertisers-pull-back-in-2025

                            As Elon Musk struggled to rebuild X's ability to generate revenue, the site suffered a mass advertiser exodus late last year, and at least some of those departures were evidently due to pro-nazi content. A few months later, Musk told advertisers "go fuck yourself."

                            And this was all right before Musk shared that the former Twitter's revenue was already down by 60 percent from before his acquisition.

                            It looks like 2025 isn't going to be any better for X. A new report from UK market research firm Kantar found that 26 percent of marketers are planning to reduce their ad spend on Musk's platform next year.
                            According to Kantar's research, this was the "biggest recorded pullback" from any of the major global advertising platforms.

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                              6 Sept 2024, 01:33

                              https://mashable.com/article/elon-musk-x-more-advertisers-pull-back-in-2025

                              As Elon Musk struggled to rebuild X's ability to generate revenue, the site suffered a mass advertiser exodus late last year, and at least some of those departures were evidently due to pro-nazi content. A few months later, Musk told advertisers "go fuck yourself."

                              And this was all right before Musk shared that the former Twitter's revenue was already down by 60 percent from before his acquisition.

                              It looks like 2025 isn't going to be any better for X. A new report from UK market research firm Kantar found that 26 percent of marketers are planning to reduce their ad spend on Musk's platform next year.
                              According to Kantar's research, this was the "biggest recorded pullback" from any of the major global advertising platforms.

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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on 6 Sept 2024, 01:36 last edited by
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                              @taiwan_girl said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                              https://mashable.com/article/elon-musk-x-more-advertisers-pull-back-in-2025

                              As Elon Musk struggled to rebuild X's ability to generate revenue, the site suffered a mass advertiser exodus late last year, and at least some of those departures were evidently due to pro-nazi content. A few months later, Musk told advertisers "go fuck yourself."

                              And this was all right before Musk shared that the former Twitter's revenue was already down by 60 percent from before his acquisition.

                              It looks like 2025 isn't going to be any better for X. A new report from UK market research firm Kantar found that 26 percent of marketers are planning to reduce their ad spend on Musk's platform next year.
                              According to Kantar's research, this was the "biggest recorded pullback" from any of the major global advertising platforms.

                              Didn't he sue some companies a while back for not advertising on X?

                              Because obviously that's going to bring them running back!

                              I was only joking

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 24 Sept 2024, 12:21 last edited by
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                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  Klaus
                                  wrote on 24 Sept 2024, 13:30 last edited by
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                                  That data doesn't necessarily mean anything.

                                  It doesn't include people using the X app.

                                  It doesn't account for potential bot purges.

                                  SimilarWeb does not have access to the actual data. They need to estimate it from various other data points, and that estimation can easily be off by a factor of 2.

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 2 Oct 2024, 14:42 last edited by
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                                    Fidelity has written 80% of the value off of its investment in X.

                                    https://techcrunch.com/2024/09/29/fidelity-has-cut-xs-value-by-79-since-musk-purchase/

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      Horace
                                      wrote on 2 Oct 2024, 14:48 last edited by
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                                      Has their user base really taken that much of a hit? Or maybe Fidelity is taking advantage of the illiquid private equity markets, which have recently tanked as per a story linked to here yesterday, for an advantageous tax write off.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 2 Oct 2024, 14:55 last edited by jon-nyc 10 Feb 2024, 14:56
                                        #796

                                        They’d need a valuation model that would survive an audit. I doubt they’re fucking with it. Doesn’t mean their model is perfect. Hard to imagine how to value it, it has meme stock potential and you can’t very well model that.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                          taiwan_girl
                                          wrote on 3 Feb 2025, 19:29 last edited by
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                                          https://www.npr.org/2025/02/01/nx-s1-5283271/elon-musk-lawsuit-advertisers-boycott-new

                                          Elon Musk's X broadened an existing lawsuit on Saturday to include several major brands — accusing more companies of illegally boycotting the social media platform in 2022 following Musk's acquisition.

                                          The suit, which was filed last year in a federal court in Texas, initially targeted the boycott organizer, the World Federation of Advertisers, along with companies including CVS and video-streaming platform Twitch.

                                          But early on Saturday, Musk's lawyers filed an amended complaint, adding several new defendants, including Lego, Nestlé, Tyson Foods, Abbott Laboratories, Colgate-Palmolive, Pinterest and Shell International.

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