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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    #776

    Yes but it's a pilot. I assume they'll roll this out. It won't stop ads but it will greatly limit bots. I'd pay without thinking.

    I was always supportive of the idea that sending an email would cost 1 penny or whatever. Trivially unnoticeable by actual humans, catastrophic for spammers.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      #777

      I like that this bold experiment is being conducted to control/limit the boys. Think Facebook/Instagram or maybe even LinkedIn will follow?

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        Yes but it's a pilot. I assume they'll roll this out. It won't stop ads but it will greatly limit bots. I'd pay without thinking.

        I was always supportive of the idea that sending an email would cost 1 penny or whatever. Trivially unnoticeable by actual humans, catastrophic for spammers.

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        Axtremus
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        #778

        @jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

        Yes but it's a pilot. I assume they'll roll this out. It won't stop ads but it will greatly limit bots. I'd pay without thinking.

        I was always supportive of the idea that sending an email would cost 1 penny or whatever. Trivially unnoticeable by actual humans, catastrophic for spammers.

        Make it like what the telephone used to cost: free within an organization (free PBX calls) but costs money to send email across organizations.

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          #779

          https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/17/technology/elon-musk-twitter-x-advertisers.html

          Advertisers flee X/Twitter again, this time because Elon allegedly endorsed an antisemitic x/tweet.

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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            jon-nyc
            wrote on last edited by
            #780

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • jon-nycJ Online
              jon-nycJ Online
              jon-nyc
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              #781

              (I think he really means ‘since the Obama Depression’)

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                #782

                `https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musks-x-sued-120-million-worth-of-server-parts-2024-8?op=1

                Elon Musk's X is facing yet another possible legal battle, this time over $120 million worth of unpaid IT bills.

                Taiwanese tech firm Wiwynn is suing the social media giant formerly known as Twitter for $61 million over claims it refused to pay for around $120 million in server parts after Musk took over in 2022.

                and

                In addition to the Wiwynn lawsuit, Musk is facing lawsuits from several former Twitter executives, including former CEO Parag Agrawal, over $128 million in unpaid severance.

                X is also being sued by former Twitter chairman Omid Kordestani over $20 million worth of shares and other ex-Twitter staff over unpaid bonuses, with the growing number of legal fights unlikely to help the company's reportedly sagging revenues.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  (I think he really means ‘since the Obama Depression’)

                  JollyJ Offline
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                  #783

                  @jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                  (I think he really means ‘since the Obama Depression’)

                  Works for me.

                  "Own the language", the Demonrats said.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                    #784

                    https://futurism.com/mistake-elon-musk-begged-twitter-staff-turn-off-new-feature

                    In late 2022, long before multi-hyphenate billionaire Elon Musk renamed Twitter to X, rumors swirled that he was getting ready to shake up the platform's verification system.

                    His proposal: charge each subscriber for the privilege of being verified without ever doing the homework of actually verifying their identity — a short-sighted and ultimately disastrous decision that Musk reportedly regretted almost immediately.

                    and

                    The 2022 US midterm elections took place on November 8, a day before Musk started charging users for a blue checkmark.

                    When the switch was made, all hell broke loose, with countless newly verified accounts masquerading as politicians, celebrities, and companies. One account parading as Nintendo shared a viral image of Super Mario giving the finger.

                    Advertisers, who had gotten wind of the mayhem, started reaching out to Twitter's sales teams, threatening to pull their ads. According to Mac and Conger's sources, Nike executives threatened to never advertise on the platform again.

                    And Musk was terrified of the prospect of losing hundreds of millions of dollars in advertising revenue.

                    "Turn it off," he reportedly told an engineer. "Turn it off!"

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
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                      #785

                      To his credit, he changed his mind after realizing it was a mistake.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Axtremus
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                        #786

                        Good thing nothing really important happens on Twitter; it’s not like he was messing with the nation’s critical infrastructures like, banking, utilities, or transportation.

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                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          Good thing nothing really important happens on Twitter; it’s not like he was messing with the nation’s critical infrastructures like, banking, utilities, or transportation.

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                          wrote on last edited by
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                          @Axtremus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                          Good thing nothing really important happens on Twitter

                          Is there a social media platform on which something important does happen?

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG George K

                            To his credit, he changed his mind after realizing it was a mistake.

                            jon-nycJ Online
                            jon-nycJ Online
                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #788

                            @George-K said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                            To his credit, he changed his mind after realizing it was a mistake.

                            Yes but his best lawyers couldn’t get him out of the contract so he had to buy the company after all.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            • jon-nycJ Online
                              jon-nycJ Online
                              jon-nyc
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                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                https://mashable.com/article/elon-musk-x-more-advertisers-pull-back-in-2025

                                As Elon Musk struggled to rebuild X's ability to generate revenue, the site suffered a mass advertiser exodus late last year, and at least some of those departures were evidently due to pro-nazi content. A few months later, Musk told advertisers "go fuck yourself."

                                And this was all right before Musk shared that the former Twitter's revenue was already down by 60 percent from before his acquisition.

                                It looks like 2025 isn't going to be any better for X. A new report from UK market research firm Kantar found that 26 percent of marketers are planning to reduce their ad spend on Musk's platform next year.
                                According to Kantar's research, this was the "biggest recorded pullback" from any of the major global advertising platforms.

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                                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                  https://mashable.com/article/elon-musk-x-more-advertisers-pull-back-in-2025

                                  As Elon Musk struggled to rebuild X's ability to generate revenue, the site suffered a mass advertiser exodus late last year, and at least some of those departures were evidently due to pro-nazi content. A few months later, Musk told advertisers "go fuck yourself."

                                  And this was all right before Musk shared that the former Twitter's revenue was already down by 60 percent from before his acquisition.

                                  It looks like 2025 isn't going to be any better for X. A new report from UK market research firm Kantar found that 26 percent of marketers are planning to reduce their ad spend on Musk's platform next year.
                                  According to Kantar's research, this was the "biggest recorded pullback" from any of the major global advertising platforms.

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                                  #791

                                  @taiwan_girl said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                  https://mashable.com/article/elon-musk-x-more-advertisers-pull-back-in-2025

                                  As Elon Musk struggled to rebuild X's ability to generate revenue, the site suffered a mass advertiser exodus late last year, and at least some of those departures were evidently due to pro-nazi content. A few months later, Musk told advertisers "go fuck yourself."

                                  And this was all right before Musk shared that the former Twitter's revenue was already down by 60 percent from before his acquisition.

                                  It looks like 2025 isn't going to be any better for X. A new report from UK market research firm Kantar found that 26 percent of marketers are planning to reduce their ad spend on Musk's platform next year.
                                  According to Kantar's research, this was the "biggest recorded pullback" from any of the major global advertising platforms.

                                  Didn't he sue some companies a while back for not advertising on X?

                                  Because obviously that's going to bring them running back!

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • jon-nycJ Online
                                    jon-nycJ Online
                                    jon-nyc
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                                    #792

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      That data doesn't necessarily mean anything.

                                      It doesn't include people using the X app.

                                      It doesn't account for potential bot purges.

                                      SimilarWeb does not have access to the actual data. They need to estimate it from various other data points, and that estimation can easily be off by a factor of 2.

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        #794

                                        Fidelity has written 80% of the value off of its investment in X.

                                        https://techcrunch.com/2024/09/29/fidelity-has-cut-xs-value-by-79-since-musk-purchase/

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                          Has their user base really taken that much of a hit? Or maybe Fidelity is taking advantage of the illiquid private equity markets, which have recently tanked as per a story linked to here yesterday, for an advantageous tax write off.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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