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  • A Aqua Letifer
    11 Nov 2022, 14:53

    @Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

    @Aqua-Letifer said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

    @Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

    No, I think LuFin's comment was a little broader. Tech may continue to let folks work from home, but even the fruit company is now making people come into the office a few days of the week. It's very hard to manage some employees remotely, even in tech.

    It really isn't, if you know how to manage in this century. Most of the pushback is coming from managerial luddites who should just retire. They're worried about workers running amok because they don't have the skills to manage remote teams, but instead of owning up, they cop excuses and put it on the employees, like all bad managers do.

    One of my direct reports isn't even on this continent.

    We do electrical engineering. Obviously, it's not like that's a real job like mowing the lawn or mixing paint, but since most people who do that are illegal immigrants anyway since Americans are too lazy, I don't see the problem.

    Stereotypes are so useful!

    If you don't show up for the office, how in the hell are they to know if you're wearing a suit or not?!

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    Doctor Phibes
    wrote on 11 Nov 2022, 14:57 last edited by
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    @Aqua-Letifer said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

    @Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

    @Aqua-Letifer said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

    @Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

    No, I think LuFin's comment was a little broader. Tech may continue to let folks work from home, but even the fruit company is now making people come into the office a few days of the week. It's very hard to manage some employees remotely, even in tech.

    It really isn't, if you know how to manage in this century. Most of the pushback is coming from managerial luddites who should just retire. They're worried about workers running amok because they don't have the skills to manage remote teams, but instead of owning up, they cop excuses and put it on the employees, like all bad managers do.

    One of my direct reports isn't even on this continent.

    We do electrical engineering. Obviously, it's not like that's a real job like mowing the lawn or mixing paint, but since most people who do that are illegal immigrants anyway since Americans are too lazy, I don't see the problem.

    Stereotypes are so useful!

    If you don't show up for the office, how in the hell are they to know if you're wearing a suit or not?!

    I'm British. If we ever showered, we'd do it in a suit.

    I was only joking

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 11 Nov 2022, 15:03 last edited by
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      • D Doctor Phibes
        11 Nov 2022, 03:10

        @Copper said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

        @Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

        No, I think the days of folk being told they have to come in 5 days a week are over.

        Not for those who have real jobs that build things or fix things or who perform some service, surgeons for example or bus drivers.

        Yes, but we’re talking about Twitter, not bus drivers.

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        Copper
        wrote on 11 Nov 2022, 17:17 last edited by
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        @Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

        @Copper said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

        @Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

        No, I think the days of folk being told they have to come in 5 days a week are over.

        Not for those who have real jobs that build things or fix things or who perform some service, surgeons for example or bus drivers.

        Yes, but we’re talking about Twitter, not bus drivers.

        OK, well if it is just twitter, I assume most of their employees are in the HR department and do nothing but irritate each other. Let them stay home.

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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on 11 Nov 2022, 17:50 last edited by
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          I was only joking

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          • J jon-nyc
            9 Nov 2022, 16:48

            This is the right attitude

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            Mik
            wrote on 11 Nov 2022, 18:26 last edited by
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            @jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

            This is the right attitude

            Wouldn’t give it much credence. He’s not verified.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              Aqua Letifer
              wrote on 12 Nov 2022, 04:39 last edited by
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              Please love yourself.

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              • G George K
                10 Nov 2022, 23:00

                Ruh Roh...

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                taiwan_girl
                wrote on 12 Nov 2022, 10:55 last edited by
                #564

                @George-K said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                Ruh Roh...

                Memo to the company about returning to to in person work

                QUOTE
                *Sorry that this is my first email to the whole company, but there is no way to sugarcoat the message.

                Frankly, the economic picture ahead is dire, especially for a company like ours that is so dependent on advertising in a challenging economic climate. Moreover, 70% of our advertising is brand, rather than specific performance, which makes us doubly vulnerable!

                That is why the priority over the past ten days has been to develop and launch Twitter Blue Verified subscriptions (huge props to the team!). Without significant subscription revenue, there is a good chance Twitter will not survive the upcoming economic downturn. We need roughly half of our revenue to be subscription.

                Of course, we will still then be significantly reliant on advertising, so I am spending time with our sales & partnerships teams to ensure that Twitter continues to be appealing to advertisers. This is the Spaces discussion that Robin, Yoel and I hosted today:

                [Links to a Twitter Spaces recording called "Elon Q&A: Advertising & the Future."]

                The road ahead is arduous and will require intense work to succeed. We are also changing Twitter policy such that remote work is no longer allowed, unless you have a specific exception. Managers will send the exceptions lists to me for review an approval.

                Starting tomorrow (Thursday), everyone is required to be in the office for a minimum of 40 hours per week. Obviously, if you are physically unable to travel to an office or have a critical personal obligation, then your absence is understandable.

                I look forward to working with you to take Twitter to a whole new level. The potential is truly incredible!

                Thanks,

                Elon*
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                • T taiwan_girl
                  12 Nov 2022, 10:55

                  @George-K said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                  Ruh Roh...

                  Memo to the company about returning to to in person work

                  QUOTE
                  *Sorry that this is my first email to the whole company, but there is no way to sugarcoat the message.

                  Frankly, the economic picture ahead is dire, especially for a company like ours that is so dependent on advertising in a challenging economic climate. Moreover, 70% of our advertising is brand, rather than specific performance, which makes us doubly vulnerable!

                  That is why the priority over the past ten days has been to develop and launch Twitter Blue Verified subscriptions (huge props to the team!). Without significant subscription revenue, there is a good chance Twitter will not survive the upcoming economic downturn. We need roughly half of our revenue to be subscription.

                  Of course, we will still then be significantly reliant on advertising, so I am spending time with our sales & partnerships teams to ensure that Twitter continues to be appealing to advertisers. This is the Spaces discussion that Robin, Yoel and I hosted today:

                  [Links to a Twitter Spaces recording called "Elon Q&A: Advertising & the Future."]

                  The road ahead is arduous and will require intense work to succeed. We are also changing Twitter policy such that remote work is no longer allowed, unless you have a specific exception. Managers will send the exceptions lists to me for review an approval.

                  Starting tomorrow (Thursday), everyone is required to be in the office for a minimum of 40 hours per week. Obviously, if you are physically unable to travel to an office or have a critical personal obligation, then your absence is understandable.

                  I look forward to working with you to take Twitter to a whole new level. The potential is truly incredible!

                  Thanks,

                  Elon*
                  UNQUOTE

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                  George K
                  wrote on 12 Nov 2022, 12:41 last edited by
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                  @taiwan_girl said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                  This is the Spaces discussion that Robin, Yoel and I hosted today:

                  Yoel Roth has left the building:

                  The Twitter exec who censored The Post’s reporting on Hunter Biden — and brazenly likened members of the Trump administration to Nazis — has quit just days after getting public support from new boss Elon Musk.

                  Yoel Roth, 35, until Wednesday had continued pushing the site’s shifting policies on trolling and hateful conduct — and appeared alongside new owner Musk, 51, in defending the platform in a crunch meeting with advertisers that same day.

                  But Twitter staffers were told on Slack on Thursday that Roth was the latest key exec to have resigned, according to employees.

                  Roth also confirmed his exit by changing his bio on the site he’d worked at for seven years to “Former Head of Trust & Safety at @Twitter.”

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 12 Nov 2022, 13:26 last edited by
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                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      kluurs
                      wrote on 12 Nov 2022, 21:44 last edited by
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                        Horace
                        wrote on 12 Nov 2022, 21:57 last edited by
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                        His business life has been marked by 100 of these moments when nobody thinks he knows what he’s doing. Odd thing is that even in retrospect it never seems clear he knew what he was doing.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          taiwan_girl
                          wrote on 13 Nov 2022, 10:45 last edited by
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                          I dont understand why they just cant require your "BOLD" name to be the same as your@NAME?

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                            George K
                            wrote on 13 Nov 2022, 12:59 last edited by
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                            Everyone whose work environment looked like this raise your hand!

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              George K
                              wrote on 13 Nov 2022, 13:04 last edited by
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                              Two Weeks of Chaos

                              Mr. Musk plans to begin making employees pay for lunch — which had been free — at the company cafeteria, two people said.

                              The lowest-paid job at Twitter earns $106K. The lunches alone (at $10 each) probably are worth another $2K in benefit, assuming you "work" 200 days a year.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Horace
                                wrote on 13 Nov 2022, 14:36 last edited by
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                                I guess they didn’t regret their CS degrees.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • H Horace
                                  13 Nov 2022, 14:36

                                  I guess they didn’t regret their CS degrees.

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                                  Aqua Letifer
                                  wrote on 13 Nov 2022, 16:21 last edited by Aqua Letifer
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                                  @Horace said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                  I guess they didn’t regret their CS degrees.

                                  You mean before they were all fired. Some of them might now have regrets.

                                  I'm also confused. I thought it was only the arts and humanities programs that doubled as woke factories. The Twitter workforce is woke factor 10 but they're all CS grads?

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                  • A Aqua Letifer
                                    13 Nov 2022, 16:21

                                    @Horace said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                    I guess they didn’t regret their CS degrees.

                                    You mean before they were all fired. Some of them might now have regrets.

                                    I'm also confused. I thought it was only the arts and humanities programs that doubled as woke factories. The Twitter workforce is woke factor 10 but they're all CS grads?

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on 13 Nov 2022, 16:34 last edited by
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                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                    @Horace said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                    I guess they didn’t regret their CS degrees.

                                    You mean before they were all fired. Some of them might now have regrets.

                                    They'll all be fine. You don't get a job at Twitter by having a bad resume or bad interview skills or a bad phenotype.

                                    I'm also confused. I thought it was only the arts and humanities programs that doubled as woke factories. The Twitter workforce is woke factor 10 but they're all CS grads?

                                    No, it's well established that universities as a whole are woke factories now. Not that you learn wokedom in CS courses, but the extra-academic culture is entirely about that.

                                    You can't talk about learning fuzzy real world skills in school, without acknowledging that absorbing the correct political attitudes, attitudes which are prerequisite for standing in front of large organizations and attesting to the correct things, is one of the most important such skills. I mean, if one wants to advance up the hierarchy.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • H Horace
                                      13 Nov 2022, 16:34

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                      @Horace said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                      I guess they didn’t regret their CS degrees.

                                      You mean before they were all fired. Some of them might now have regrets.

                                      They'll all be fine. You don't get a job at Twitter by having a bad resume or bad interview skills or a bad phenotype.

                                      I'm also confused. I thought it was only the arts and humanities programs that doubled as woke factories. The Twitter workforce is woke factor 10 but they're all CS grads?

                                      No, it's well established that universities as a whole are woke factories now. Not that you learn wokedom in CS courses, but the extra-academic culture is entirely about that.

                                      You can't talk about learning fuzzy real world skills in school, without acknowledging that absorbing the correct political attitudes, attitudes which are prerequisite for standing in front of large organizations and attesting to the correct things, is one of the most important such skills. I mean, if one wants to advance up the hierarchy.

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                                      Aqua Letifer
                                      wrote on 13 Nov 2022, 16:41 last edited by
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                                      @Horace said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                      You can't talk about learning fuzzy real world skills in school, without acknowledging that absorbing the correct political attitudes, attitudes which are prerequisite for standing in front of large organizations and attesting to the correct things, is one of the most important such skills. I mean, if one wants to advance up the hierarchy.

                                      Yeah. Again with my comment about autodidacts and polymaths (or "multipotentialites" if you're partial to trendier jargon). It'd help with a lot of this.

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 14:05 last edited by
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                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                          wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 17:34 last edited by
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                                          Eli Lilly is pulling its millions in ad spending on Twitter after last week’s fake posts debacle, according to a news report.

                                          When an imposter Lilly account with a “verified” blue check mark touted, “We are excited to announce insulin is free now,” it set off a mad scramble inside Lilly to reach Twitter and get the post taken down, according to the Washington Post and its sources inside the pharma. The problem, however, was made even worse when no one at Twitter responded for hours, likely due to new owner Elon Musk’s massive staff layoff.

                                          And in the hours that the fake post remained up Thursday afternoon, others joined in with “verified” imposter Lilly accounts with even more fake commentary. Lilly apologized on Friday at its official account@Lillypad over the “misleading message from a fake Lilly account.”

                                          However, the real damage had already been done. By Friday morning, Lilly stock had dropped by more than 5% from the day before. The Twitter stunt pulled down the stock price of other diabetes drugmakers, including Novo Nordisk and Sanofi. Lilly’s stock has yet to recover and, on Monday morning, remained down more than 4% over the past five days.

                                          https://endpts.com/eli-lilly-pulls-millions-in-twitter-advertising-after-fake-account-debacle-report/

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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