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  • J jon-nyc
    4 Apr 2022, 13:47

    Pass the popcorn, George.

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    George K
    wrote on 13 May 2022, 10:59 last edited by
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    @jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

    Pass the popcorn, George.

    Elon Musk Says Twitter Deal Is on Hold,

    “Twitter deal temporarily on hold pending details supporting calculation that spam/fake accounts do indeed represent less than 5% of users,” Mr. Musk said in a tweet early Friday. He linked to a May 2 Reuters report about a recent Twitter securities filing with those statistics.

    Twitter shares were down nearly 20% in premarket trade. Mr. Musk disclosed a 9% stake in the social-networking website last month and sought to buy the remainder of the company at a price of $54.20 a share. He said he had lined up $46.5 billion of funding for the transaction.

    Mr. Musk plans to bring a commitment to a more hands-off approach on speech moderation to a company that has struggled to reconcile freewheeling conversations with content that appeals to advertisers.

    Some investors saw the pause in the acquisition as a potential sign that the deal may not go ahead.

    “I think he’s potentially seeding the ground for pulling out of the deal. That’s certainly the market’s interpretation,” said Michael Hewson, chief markets analyst at CMC Markets. “But we’ll have to wait and see, it’s a bit strange to go through all that legwork and pull funding together and then suddenly put it on hold. It is a rather strange development.”

    The move comes a day after Twitter said it was pausing hiring and looking to cut costs as it grapples with disruptions in the digital advertising market from global economic turmoil and the war in Ukraine. Across the tech industry, companies are cutting staff and spending or slowing hiring.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Klaus
      wrote on 13 May 2022, 11:45 last edited by Klaus
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      What exactly is the condition in the contract about which Musk is talking here?

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      • K Klaus
        13 May 2022, 11:45

        What exactly is the condition in the contract about which Musk is talking here?

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        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on 13 May 2022, 11:50 last edited by
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        @Klaus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

        What exactly is the condition in the contract about which Musk is talking here?

        It's almost as though he's not particularly trustworthy.

        I was only joking

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        • D Doctor Phibes
          13 May 2022, 11:50

          @Klaus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

          What exactly is the condition in the contract about which Musk is talking here?

          It's almost as though he's not particularly trustworthy.

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          Axtremus
          wrote on 13 May 2022, 12:03 last edited by
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          @Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

          @Klaus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

          What exactly is the condition in the contract about which Musk is talking here?

          It's almost as though he's not particularly trustworthy.

          Well, even if he is untrustworthy, it will cost him no more than the $1 Billion break-up fee stipulated in the buy-out agreement.

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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on 13 May 2022, 12:09 last edited by
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            I'm kind of left with the impression of people playing rather childish games, and spending obscene amounts of money in order to do so.

            I was only joking

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              Axtremus
              wrote on 13 May 2022, 12:33 last edited by
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              Whatever Elon is doing with Twitter yesterday/today, it doesn’t look like there is any significant movement with Truth Social/DWAC’s stock price. :man-shrugging:

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                13 May 2022, 12:09

                I'm kind of left with the impression of people playing rather childish games, and spending obscene amounts of money in order to do so.

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                Axtremus
                wrote on 13 May 2022, 12:39 last edited by
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                @Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                I'm kind of left with the impression of people playing rather childish games, and spending obscene amounts of money in order to do so.

                And shareholder class action lawsuits ensue …

                It looks to me that the way this is going, it increases the likelihood of Elon and Twitter and maybe even Tesla getting hit by shareholder class action lawsuits regardless of whether Elon follows through with the acquisition of Twitter.

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                  kluurs
                  wrote on 13 May 2022, 13:17 last edited by kluurs
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                  Given market conditions, perhaps he feels he chose an inopportune time to acquire Twitter and is having second thoughts.

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                  • D Doctor Phibes
                    13 May 2022, 11:50

                    @Klaus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                    What exactly is the condition in the contract about which Musk is talking here?

                    It's almost as though he's not particularly trustworthy.

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                    Ivorythumper
                    wrote on 13 May 2022, 14:38 last edited by
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                    @Doctor-Phibes It sounds as if he’s verifying value based on real person accounts being more the 95%. Why would that be a problem?

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                    • I Ivorythumper
                      13 May 2022, 14:38

                      @Doctor-Phibes It sounds as if he’s verifying value based on real person accounts being more the 95%. Why would that be a problem?

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on 13 May 2022, 14:57 last edited by
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                      @Ivorythumper said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                      @Doctor-Phibes It sounds as if he’s verifying value based on real person accounts being more the 95%. Why would that be a problem?

                      He might be, but he's pulled a few tricks in the past which have done funny things to share prices.

                      I really don't have any issue with him buying Twitter at all - I suspect it won't make much difference either way.

                      I was only joking

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                        Axtremus
                        wrote on 15 May 2022, 20:52 last edited by
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                        https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/14/elon-musk-has-wrong-approach-to-count-fakes-spam-on-twitter-experts.html

                        Elon publicized the method he wants to use to determine the fraction of accounts that are "fake" on Twitter. Other experts panned his preferred method.

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                        • A Axtremus
                          15 May 2022, 20:52

                          https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/14/elon-musk-has-wrong-approach-to-count-fakes-spam-on-twitter-experts.html

                          Elon publicized the method he wants to use to determine the fraction of accounts that are "fake" on Twitter. Other experts panned his preferred method.

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                          taiwan_girl
                          wrote on 16 May 2022, 16:37 last edited by
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                          @Axtremus from the article

                          "He also warns that the number of inauthentic accounts can appear higher or lower in different corners of Twitter depending on topics being discussed. For example, more inauthentic accounts tweet about politics, cryptocurrency, climate change, and covid than those discussing non-controversial topics like kittens and origami, "

                          I would have thought that would have been quite obvious. LOL

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                            15 May 2022, 20:52

                            https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/14/elon-musk-has-wrong-approach-to-count-fakes-spam-on-twitter-experts.html

                            Elon publicized the method he wants to use to determine the fraction of accounts that are "fake" on Twitter. Other experts panned his preferred method.

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                            Copper
                            wrote on 16 May 2022, 16:53 last edited by
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                            @Axtremus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                            Other experts panned his preferred method.

                            We are all experts here, we can make our own decisions.

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                              Klaus
                              wrote on 16 May 2022, 16:58 last edited by
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                              Well, if I were Elon, I'd keep more of my thoughts to myself.

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                                Axtremus
                                wrote on 17 May 2022, 19:40 last edited by
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                                https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/twitter-committed-elon-musks-44-billion-deal-2022-05-17/

                                The narrative seems to be that Elon did no “due diligence” before signing the deal.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 18 May 2022, 12:57 last edited by
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                                  Half of Joe Biden's Twitter Followers Are Fake, Audit Reveals

                                  Almost half of President Joe Biden's current 22.2 million followers on Twitter are fake accounts, according to an audit tool provided by software company SparkToro.

                                  SparkToro's tool found that 49.3 percent of accounts following the official @POTUS Twitter account are "fake followers" based on analysis of a number of factors, including location issues, default profile images and new users.

                                  Tesla CEO Elon Musk, who is currently trying to buy Twitter, has expressed concerns about the number of fake accounts and a potential crack down could see users such as Biden lose a huge number of followers.

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                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on 18 May 2022, 13:06 last edited by
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                                    Roughly the same demographic that voted for him

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 18 May 2022, 17:40 last edited by
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                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        Ivorythumper
                                        wrote on 21 May 2022, 13:54 last edited by Ivorythumper
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                                          Mik
                                          wrote on 21 May 2022, 18:43 last edited by
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                                          The picture gets murkier as time goes on. The purchase may not happen at all.

                                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/musk-sails-into-the-swamp/ar-AAXyYhx?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a3697674475842639921902f181c5db2

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