Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter
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@Axtremus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Still challenging to identify professional propaganda accounts that disguise themselves as casual users.
I'm not at all in the tech field, but that seems like a rather simple thing to solve for as a general condition. It needn't be perfect to be very good.
wrote on 4 May 2022, 21:02 last edited by@Ivorythumper said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
I'm not at all in the tech field, but that seems like a rather simple thing to solve for as a general condition. It needn't be perfect to be very good.
Cat and mouse game. You try to up your game at piercing through their disguise, they try to up their game at improving their disguise.
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wrote on 4 May 2022, 21:46 last edited by
Biometrics.
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wrote on 4 May 2022, 22:18 last edited by
@Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Biometrics.
Oh, sure, now that Elon has bought one Internet company, you want all the the Internet companies to have everyone’s biometric data.
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wrote on 4 May 2022, 22:21 last edited by
@Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Biometrics.
Is it time for the government to roll out a digital ID for all it's citizens? (Replacing the primacy of driver's licenses, SSN, passport, etc.)
Everyone gets one - the government foots the Bill to maintain and secure it and allows other entities to verify it.
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@Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Biometrics.
Is it time for the government to roll out a digital ID for all it's citizens? (Replacing the primacy of driver's licenses, SSN, passport, etc.)
Everyone gets one - the government foots the Bill to maintain and secure it and allows other entities to verify it.
wrote on 4 May 2022, 22:22 last edited by@xenon said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
the government foots the Bill
You misspelled citizens.
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wrote on 4 May 2022, 22:42 last edited by
I trust Elon Musk about as much as I trust the government.
At least I can opt out of Twatter
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@xenon said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
the government foots the Bill
You misspelled citizens.
wrote on 4 May 2022, 23:20 last edited by@George-K said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@xenon said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
the government foots the Bill
You misspelled citizens.
Some citizens.... I'm trying to think through the pushback to ID laws, which is that they're not "equitable". (The citizens for whom they're not "equitable" would not be paying)
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@Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Biometrics.
Oh, sure, now that Elon has bought one Internet company, you want all the the Internet companies to have everyone’s biometric data.
wrote on 5 May 2022, 00:30 last edited by@Axtremus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Biometrics.
Oh, sure, now that Elon has bought one Internet company, you want all the the Internet companies to have everyone’s biometric data.
I use biometrics to unlock my phone. I use it to log into my online banking. Why not your Twitter account?
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wrote on 13 May 2022, 10:59 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Pass the popcorn, George.
Elon Musk Says Twitter Deal Is on Hold,
“Twitter deal temporarily on hold pending details supporting calculation that spam/fake accounts do indeed represent less than 5% of users,” Mr. Musk said in a tweet early Friday. He linked to a May 2 Reuters report about a recent Twitter securities filing with those statistics.
Twitter shares were down nearly 20% in premarket trade. Mr. Musk disclosed a 9% stake in the social-networking website last month and sought to buy the remainder of the company at a price of $54.20 a share. He said he had lined up $46.5 billion of funding for the transaction.
Mr. Musk plans to bring a commitment to a more hands-off approach on speech moderation to a company that has struggled to reconcile freewheeling conversations with content that appeals to advertisers.
Some investors saw the pause in the acquisition as a potential sign that the deal may not go ahead.
“I think he’s potentially seeding the ground for pulling out of the deal. That’s certainly the market’s interpretation,” said Michael Hewson, chief markets analyst at CMC Markets. “But we’ll have to wait and see, it’s a bit strange to go through all that legwork and pull funding together and then suddenly put it on hold. It is a rather strange development.”
The move comes a day after Twitter said it was pausing hiring and looking to cut costs as it grapples with disruptions in the digital advertising market from global economic turmoil and the war in Ukraine. Across the tech industry, companies are cutting staff and spending or slowing hiring.
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wrote on 13 May 2022, 11:45 last edited by Klaus
What exactly is the condition in the contract about which Musk is talking here?
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wrote on 13 May 2022, 11:50 last edited by
@Klaus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
What exactly is the condition in the contract about which Musk is talking here?
It's almost as though he's not particularly trustworthy.
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@Klaus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
What exactly is the condition in the contract about which Musk is talking here?
It's almost as though he's not particularly trustworthy.
wrote on 13 May 2022, 12:03 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Klaus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
What exactly is the condition in the contract about which Musk is talking here?
It's almost as though he's not particularly trustworthy.
Well, even if he is untrustworthy, it will cost him no more than the $1 Billion break-up fee stipulated in the buy-out agreement.
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wrote on 13 May 2022, 12:09 last edited by
I'm kind of left with the impression of people playing rather childish games, and spending obscene amounts of money in order to do so.
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wrote on 13 May 2022, 12:33 last edited by
Whatever Elon is doing with Twitter yesterday/today, it doesn’t look like there is any significant movement with Truth Social/DWAC’s stock price. :man-shrugging:
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I'm kind of left with the impression of people playing rather childish games, and spending obscene amounts of money in order to do so.
wrote on 13 May 2022, 12:39 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
I'm kind of left with the impression of people playing rather childish games, and spending obscene amounts of money in order to do so.
And shareholder class action lawsuits ensue …
It looks to me that the way this is going, it increases the likelihood of Elon and Twitter and maybe even Tesla getting hit by shareholder class action lawsuits regardless of whether Elon follows through with the acquisition of Twitter.
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wrote on 13 May 2022, 13:17 last edited by kluurs
Given market conditions, perhaps he feels he chose an inopportune time to acquire Twitter and is having second thoughts.
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@Klaus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
What exactly is the condition in the contract about which Musk is talking here?
It's almost as though he's not particularly trustworthy.
wrote on 13 May 2022, 14:38 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes It sounds as if he’s verifying value based on real person accounts being more the 95%. Why would that be a problem?
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@Doctor-Phibes It sounds as if he’s verifying value based on real person accounts being more the 95%. Why would that be a problem?
wrote on 13 May 2022, 14:57 last edited by@Ivorythumper said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Doctor-Phibes It sounds as if he’s verifying value based on real person accounts being more the 95%. Why would that be a problem?
He might be, but he's pulled a few tricks in the past which have done funny things to share prices.
I really don't have any issue with him buying Twitter at all - I suspect it won't make much difference either way.
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wrote on 15 May 2022, 20:52 last edited by
Elon publicized the method he wants to use to determine the fraction of accounts that are "fake" on Twitter. Other experts panned his preferred method.
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Elon publicized the method he wants to use to determine the fraction of accounts that are "fake" on Twitter. Other experts panned his preferred method.
wrote on 16 May 2022, 16:37 last edited by@Axtremus from the article
"He also warns that the number of inauthentic accounts can appear higher or lower in different corners of Twitter depending on topics being discussed. For example, more inauthentic accounts tweet about politics, cryptocurrency, climate change, and covid than those discussing non-controversial topics like kittens and origami, "
I would have thought that would have been quite obvious. LOL
