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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    #781

    (I think he really means ‘since the Obama Depression’)

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • taiwan_girlT Offline
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      #782

      `https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musks-x-sued-120-million-worth-of-server-parts-2024-8?op=1

      Elon Musk's X is facing yet another possible legal battle, this time over $120 million worth of unpaid IT bills.

      Taiwanese tech firm Wiwynn is suing the social media giant formerly known as Twitter for $61 million over claims it refused to pay for around $120 million in server parts after Musk took over in 2022.

      and

      In addition to the Wiwynn lawsuit, Musk is facing lawsuits from several former Twitter executives, including former CEO Parag Agrawal, over $128 million in unpaid severance.

      X is also being sued by former Twitter chairman Omid Kordestani over $20 million worth of shares and other ex-Twitter staff over unpaid bonuses, with the growing number of legal fights unlikely to help the company's reportedly sagging revenues.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        (I think he really means ‘since the Obama Depression’)

        JollyJ Offline
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        #783

        @jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

        (I think he really means ‘since the Obama Depression’)

        Works for me.

        "Own the language", the Demonrats said.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • taiwan_girlT Offline
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          #784

          https://futurism.com/mistake-elon-musk-begged-twitter-staff-turn-off-new-feature

          In late 2022, long before multi-hyphenate billionaire Elon Musk renamed Twitter to X, rumors swirled that he was getting ready to shake up the platform's verification system.

          His proposal: charge each subscriber for the privilege of being verified without ever doing the homework of actually verifying their identity — a short-sighted and ultimately disastrous decision that Musk reportedly regretted almost immediately.

          and

          The 2022 US midterm elections took place on November 8, a day before Musk started charging users for a blue checkmark.

          When the switch was made, all hell broke loose, with countless newly verified accounts masquerading as politicians, celebrities, and companies. One account parading as Nintendo shared a viral image of Super Mario giving the finger.

          Advertisers, who had gotten wind of the mayhem, started reaching out to Twitter's sales teams, threatening to pull their ads. According to Mac and Conger's sources, Nike executives threatened to never advertise on the platform again.

          And Musk was terrified of the prospect of losing hundreds of millions of dollars in advertising revenue.

          "Turn it off," he reportedly told an engineer. "Turn it off!"

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #785

            To his credit, he changed his mind after realizing it was a mistake.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • AxtremusA Offline
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              #786

              Good thing nothing really important happens on Twitter; it’s not like he was messing with the nation’s critical infrastructures like, banking, utilities, or transportation.

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              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                Good thing nothing really important happens on Twitter; it’s not like he was messing with the nation’s critical infrastructures like, banking, utilities, or transportation.

                George KG Offline
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                George K
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                #787

                @Axtremus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                Good thing nothing really important happens on Twitter

                Is there a social media platform on which something important does happen?

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • George KG George K

                  To his credit, he changed his mind after realizing it was a mistake.

                  jon-nycJ Offline
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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #788

                  @George-K said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                  To his credit, he changed his mind after realizing it was a mistake.

                  Yes but his best lawyers couldn’t get him out of the contract so he had to buy the company after all.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    #789

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                      #790

                      https://mashable.com/article/elon-musk-x-more-advertisers-pull-back-in-2025

                      As Elon Musk struggled to rebuild X's ability to generate revenue, the site suffered a mass advertiser exodus late last year, and at least some of those departures were evidently due to pro-nazi content. A few months later, Musk told advertisers "go fuck yourself."

                      And this was all right before Musk shared that the former Twitter's revenue was already down by 60 percent from before his acquisition.

                      It looks like 2025 isn't going to be any better for X. A new report from UK market research firm Kantar found that 26 percent of marketers are planning to reduce their ad spend on Musk's platform next year.
                      According to Kantar's research, this was the "biggest recorded pullback" from any of the major global advertising platforms.

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                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                        https://mashable.com/article/elon-musk-x-more-advertisers-pull-back-in-2025

                        As Elon Musk struggled to rebuild X's ability to generate revenue, the site suffered a mass advertiser exodus late last year, and at least some of those departures were evidently due to pro-nazi content. A few months later, Musk told advertisers "go fuck yourself."

                        And this was all right before Musk shared that the former Twitter's revenue was already down by 60 percent from before his acquisition.

                        It looks like 2025 isn't going to be any better for X. A new report from UK market research firm Kantar found that 26 percent of marketers are planning to reduce their ad spend on Musk's platform next year.
                        According to Kantar's research, this was the "biggest recorded pullback" from any of the major global advertising platforms.

                        Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                        @taiwan_girl said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                        https://mashable.com/article/elon-musk-x-more-advertisers-pull-back-in-2025

                        As Elon Musk struggled to rebuild X's ability to generate revenue, the site suffered a mass advertiser exodus late last year, and at least some of those departures were evidently due to pro-nazi content. A few months later, Musk told advertisers "go fuck yourself."

                        And this was all right before Musk shared that the former Twitter's revenue was already down by 60 percent from before his acquisition.

                        It looks like 2025 isn't going to be any better for X. A new report from UK market research firm Kantar found that 26 percent of marketers are planning to reduce their ad spend on Musk's platform next year.
                        According to Kantar's research, this was the "biggest recorded pullback" from any of the major global advertising platforms.

                        Didn't he sue some companies a while back for not advertising on X?

                        Because obviously that's going to bring them running back!

                        I was only joking

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                        • jon-nycJ Offline
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                          jon-nyc
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                          #792

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          • KlausK Offline
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                            That data doesn't necessarily mean anything.

                            It doesn't include people using the X app.

                            It doesn't account for potential bot purges.

                            SimilarWeb does not have access to the actual data. They need to estimate it from various other data points, and that estimation can easily be off by a factor of 2.

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                            • jon-nycJ Offline
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                              Fidelity has written 80% of the value off of its investment in X.

                              https://techcrunch.com/2024/09/29/fidelity-has-cut-xs-value-by-79-since-musk-purchase/

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • HoraceH Offline
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                                #795

                                Has their user base really taken that much of a hit? Or maybe Fidelity is taking advantage of the illiquid private equity markets, which have recently tanked as per a story linked to here yesterday, for an advantageous tax write off.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                                  #796

                                  They’d need a valuation model that would survive an audit. I doubt they’re fucking with it. Doesn’t mean their model is perfect. Hard to imagine how to value it, it has meme stock potential and you can’t very well model that.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                                    https://www.npr.org/2025/02/01/nx-s1-5283271/elon-musk-lawsuit-advertisers-boycott-new

                                    Elon Musk's X broadened an existing lawsuit on Saturday to include several major brands — accusing more companies of illegally boycotting the social media platform in 2022 following Musk's acquisition.

                                    The suit, which was filed last year in a federal court in Texas, initially targeted the boycott organizer, the World Federation of Advertisers, along with companies including CVS and video-streaming platform Twitch.

                                    But early on Saturday, Musk's lawyers filed an amended complaint, adding several new defendants, including Lego, Nestlé, Tyson Foods, Abbott Laboratories, Colgate-Palmolive, Pinterest and Shell International.

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                                      A group of investors led by Elon Musk is offering about $97.4 billion to buy the nonprofit behind OpenAI, escalating a dispute with the artificial intelligence company that Musk helped found a decade ago.

                                      and

                                      OpenAI CEO Sam Altman quickly rejected the unsolicited bid on Musk’s social platform X, saying, “no thank you but we will buy Twitter for $9.74 billion if you want.”

                                      https://apnews.com/article/elon-musk-openai-bid-chatgpt-sam-altman-b1ad37fe4fe70e3b5d283940bd3b8215

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                                        #799

                                        Morgan Stanley and other lenders to Elon Musk's Twitter takeover yesterday reportedly sold around $4.7 billion of X debt at face value.

                                        This blows away expectations for the deal, in terms of both volume and pricing, and leaves creditors with only around $1.3 billion of their $12.5 billion outlay.

                                        Original plans were to sell $3 billion of debt at a 10%-20% discount.

                                        One explanation is that X has improved its finances, although that's still fuzzy. For example, WSJ recently reported that X's 2024 revenue includes "hundreds of millions of dollars" transferred from xAI, leaving unclear if there's been any organic top-line growth.

                                        Better rationales are Musk's newfound proximity to power and the social media company's equity stake in xAI.

                                        https://www.axios.com/2025/02/14/lenders-elon-musk-twitter-x-takeover

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                                          Elon Musk apparently no longer believes that crowdsourcing fact-checking through Community Notes can never be manipulated and is, thus, the best way to correct bad posts on his social media platform X.

                                          and

                                          Although other independent polling recently documented a similar increase in Zelenskyy's approval rating, NBC News reported, the specific poll cited in X notes contradicted Donald Trump's claim that Zelenskyy is unpopular, and Musk seemed to expect X notes should instead be providing context to defend Trump's viewpoint. Musk even suggested that by pointing to the supposedly government-linked poll in Community Notes, X users were spreading misinformation.

                                          "It should be utterly obvious that a Zelensky[y]-controlled poll about his OWN approval is not credible!!" Musk wrote on X.

                                          Musk's attack on Community Notes is somewhat surprising. Although he has always maintained that Community Notes aren't "perfect," he has defended Community Notes through multiple European Union probes challenging their effectiveness and declared that the goal of the crowdsourcing effort was to make X "by far the best source of truth on Earth." At CES 2025, X CEO Linda Yaccarino bragged that Community Notes are "good for the world."

                                          https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/02/elon-musk-to-fix-community-notes-after-they-contradict-trump/

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