Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter
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Twitter is trying to thwart billionaire Elon Musk’s takeover attempt with a “poison pill” — a financial device that companies have been wielding against unwelcome suitors for decades.
WHAT ARE POISON PILLS SUPPOSED TO DO?
The ingredients of each poison pill vary, but they’re all designed to give corporate boards an option to flood the market with so much newly created stock that a takeover becomes prohibitively expensive. The strategy was popularized back in the 1980s when publicly held companies were being stalked by corporate raiders such as Carl Icahn — now more frequently described as “activist investors.”
Twitter didn’t disclose the details of its poison pill Friday, but said it would provide more information in a forthcoming filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which the company delayed because public markets were closed Friday.
The San Francisco company’s plan will be triggered if a shareholder accumulates a stake of 15% or more. Musk, best known as CEO of electric car maker Tesla, currently holds a roughly 9% stake.
@George-K said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Twitter is trying to thwart billionaire Elon Musk’s takeover attempt with a “poison pill” — a financial device that companies have been wielding against unwelcome suitors for decades.
WHAT ARE POISON PILLS SUPPOSED TO DO?
The ingredients of each poison pill vary, but they’re all designed to give corporate boards an option to flood the market with so much newly created stock that a takeover becomes prohibitively expensive. The strategy was popularized back in the 1980s when publicly held companies were being stalked by corporate raiders such as Carl Icahn — now more frequently described as “activist investors.”
Twitter didn’t disclose the details of its poison pill Friday, but said it would provide more information in a forthcoming filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which the company delayed because public markets were closed Friday.
The San Francisco company’s plan will be triggered if a shareholder accumulates a stake of 15% or more. Musk, best known as CEO of electric car maker Tesla, currently holds a roughly 9% stake.
Yeah, but he had to know that was coming next. Does anybody here really think there aren't wheels within wheels?
The Brad
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Something doesn't need to be a great insight to be important. Take the Michelson-Morley experiment for example, it's not exactly great insight to say that "ether" does not exist and many people have said just that, yet it takes a lot of painstaking work to prove its non-existence and that proof is monumentally important to advance humanity's understanding of the physical world.
@Axtremus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Something doesn't need to be a great insight to be important. Take the Michelson-Morley experiment for example, it's not exactly great insight to say that "ether" does not exist and many people have said just that, yet it takes a lot of painstaking work to prove its non-existence and that proof is monumentally important to advance humanity's understanding of the physical world.
That would be a good contribution to a discussion about scientific theories.
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@George-K said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Twitter is trying to thwart billionaire Elon Musk’s takeover attempt with a “poison pill” — a financial device that companies have been wielding against unwelcome suitors for decades.
WHAT ARE POISON PILLS SUPPOSED TO DO?
The ingredients of each poison pill vary, but they’re all designed to give corporate boards an option to flood the market with so much newly created stock that a takeover becomes prohibitively expensive. The strategy was popularized back in the 1980s when publicly held companies were being stalked by corporate raiders such as Carl Icahn — now more frequently described as “activist investors.”
Twitter didn’t disclose the details of its poison pill Friday, but said it would provide more information in a forthcoming filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which the company delayed because public markets were closed Friday.
The San Francisco company’s plan will be triggered if a shareholder accumulates a stake of 15% or more. Musk, best known as CEO of electric car maker Tesla, currently holds a roughly 9% stake.
Yeah, but he had to know that was coming next. Does anybody here really think there aren't wheels within wheels?
@LuFins-Dad said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@George-K said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Twitter is trying to thwart billionaire Elon Musk’s takeover attempt with a “poison pill” — a financial device that companies have been wielding against unwelcome suitors for decades.
WHAT ARE POISON PILLS SUPPOSED TO DO?
The ingredients of each poison pill vary, but they’re all designed to give corporate boards an option to flood the market with so much newly created stock that a takeover becomes prohibitively expensive. The strategy was popularized back in the 1980s when publicly held companies were being stalked by corporate raiders such as Carl Icahn — now more frequently described as “activist investors.”
Twitter didn’t disclose the details of its poison pill Friday, but said it would provide more information in a forthcoming filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which the company delayed because public markets were closed Friday.
The San Francisco company’s plan will be triggered if a shareholder accumulates a stake of 15% or more. Musk, best known as CEO of electric car maker Tesla, currently holds a roughly 9% stake.
Yeah, but he had to know that was coming next. Does anybody here really think there aren't wheels within wheels?
Does anybody here think that there’s maybe more to this than him being a knight in shining armor regarding the sanctity of free speech?
I was only joking
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@LuFins-Dad said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@George-K said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Twitter is trying to thwart billionaire Elon Musk’s takeover attempt with a “poison pill” — a financial device that companies have been wielding against unwelcome suitors for decades.
WHAT ARE POISON PILLS SUPPOSED TO DO?
The ingredients of each poison pill vary, but they’re all designed to give corporate boards an option to flood the market with so much newly created stock that a takeover becomes prohibitively expensive. The strategy was popularized back in the 1980s when publicly held companies were being stalked by corporate raiders such as Carl Icahn — now more frequently described as “activist investors.”
Twitter didn’t disclose the details of its poison pill Friday, but said it would provide more information in a forthcoming filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which the company delayed because public markets were closed Friday.
The San Francisco company’s plan will be triggered if a shareholder accumulates a stake of 15% or more. Musk, best known as CEO of electric car maker Tesla, currently holds a roughly 9% stake.
Yeah, but he had to know that was coming next. Does anybody here really think there aren't wheels within wheels?
Does anybody here think that there’s maybe more to this than him being a knight in shining armor regarding the sanctity of free speech?
@Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@LuFins-Dad said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@George-K said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Twitter is trying to thwart billionaire Elon Musk’s takeover attempt with a “poison pill” — a financial device that companies have been wielding against unwelcome suitors for decades.
WHAT ARE POISON PILLS SUPPOSED TO DO?
The ingredients of each poison pill vary, but they’re all designed to give corporate boards an option to flood the market with so much newly created stock that a takeover becomes prohibitively expensive. The strategy was popularized back in the 1980s when publicly held companies were being stalked by corporate raiders such as Carl Icahn — now more frequently described as “activist investors.”
Twitter didn’t disclose the details of its poison pill Friday, but said it would provide more information in a forthcoming filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which the company delayed because public markets were closed Friday.
The San Francisco company’s plan will be triggered if a shareholder accumulates a stake of 15% or more. Musk, best known as CEO of electric car maker Tesla, currently holds a roughly 9% stake.
Yeah, but he had to know that was coming next. Does anybody here really think there aren't wheels within wheels?
Does anybody here think that there’s maybe more to this than him being a knight in shining armor regarding the sanctity of free speech?
That's certainly part of it. I recall when the kids were trapped in the cave in Thailand and he made a very public and very heroic and very impractical offer to send in a submarine to save them.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@LuFins-Dad said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@George-K said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Twitter is trying to thwart billionaire Elon Musk’s takeover attempt with a “poison pill” — a financial device that companies have been wielding against unwelcome suitors for decades.
WHAT ARE POISON PILLS SUPPOSED TO DO?
The ingredients of each poison pill vary, but they’re all designed to give corporate boards an option to flood the market with so much newly created stock that a takeover becomes prohibitively expensive. The strategy was popularized back in the 1980s when publicly held companies were being stalked by corporate raiders such as Carl Icahn — now more frequently described as “activist investors.”
Twitter didn’t disclose the details of its poison pill Friday, but said it would provide more information in a forthcoming filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which the company delayed because public markets were closed Friday.
The San Francisco company’s plan will be triggered if a shareholder accumulates a stake of 15% or more. Musk, best known as CEO of electric car maker Tesla, currently holds a roughly 9% stake.
Yeah, but he had to know that was coming next. Does anybody here really think there aren't wheels within wheels?
Does anybody here think that there’s maybe more to this than him being a knight in shining armor regarding the sanctity of free speech?
That's certainly part of it. I recall when the kids were trapped in the cave in Thailand and he made a very public and very heroic and very impractical offer to send in a submarine to save them.
@Horace said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@LuFins-Dad said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@George-K said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Twitter is trying to thwart billionaire Elon Musk’s takeover attempt with a “poison pill” — a financial device that companies have been wielding against unwelcome suitors for decades.
WHAT ARE POISON PILLS SUPPOSED TO DO?
The ingredients of each poison pill vary, but they’re all designed to give corporate boards an option to flood the market with so much newly created stock that a takeover becomes prohibitively expensive. The strategy was popularized back in the 1980s when publicly held companies were being stalked by corporate raiders such as Carl Icahn — now more frequently described as “activist investors.”
Twitter didn’t disclose the details of its poison pill Friday, but said it would provide more information in a forthcoming filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which the company delayed because public markets were closed Friday.
The San Francisco company’s plan will be triggered if a shareholder accumulates a stake of 15% or more. Musk, best known as CEO of electric car maker Tesla, currently holds a roughly 9% stake.
Yeah, but he had to know that was coming next. Does anybody here really think there aren't wheels within wheels?
Does anybody here think that there’s maybe more to this than him being a knight in shining armor regarding the sanctity of free speech?
That's certainly part of it. I recall when the kids were trapped in the cave in Thailand and he made a very public and very heroic and very impractical offer to send in a submarine to save them.
And then heroically accused somebody who was helping in a much more practical way of being a pedophile. Allegedly.
Another great victory for freedom of speech.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@George-K said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Twitter is trying to thwart billionaire Elon Musk’s takeover attempt with a “poison pill” — a financial device that companies have been wielding against unwelcome suitors for decades.
WHAT ARE POISON PILLS SUPPOSED TO DO?
The ingredients of each poison pill vary, but they’re all designed to give corporate boards an option to flood the market with so much newly created stock that a takeover becomes prohibitively expensive. The strategy was popularized back in the 1980s when publicly held companies were being stalked by corporate raiders such as Carl Icahn — now more frequently described as “activist investors.”
Twitter didn’t disclose the details of its poison pill Friday, but said it would provide more information in a forthcoming filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which the company delayed because public markets were closed Friday.
The San Francisco company’s plan will be triggered if a shareholder accumulates a stake of 15% or more. Musk, best known as CEO of electric car maker Tesla, currently holds a roughly 9% stake.
Yeah, but he had to know that was coming next. Does anybody here really think there aren't wheels within wheels?
Does anybody here think that there’s maybe more to this than him being a knight in shining armor regarding the sanctity of free speech?
@Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@LuFins-Dad said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@George-K said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Twitter is trying to thwart billionaire Elon Musk’s takeover attempt with a “poison pill” — a financial device that companies have been wielding against unwelcome suitors for decades.
WHAT ARE POISON PILLS SUPPOSED TO DO?
The ingredients of each poison pill vary, but they’re all designed to give corporate boards an option to flood the market with so much newly created stock that a takeover becomes prohibitively expensive. The strategy was popularized back in the 1980s when publicly held companies were being stalked by corporate raiders such as Carl Icahn — now more frequently described as “activist investors.”
Twitter didn’t disclose the details of its poison pill Friday, but said it would provide more information in a forthcoming filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which the company delayed because public markets were closed Friday.
The San Francisco company’s plan will be triggered if a shareholder accumulates a stake of 15% or more. Musk, best known as CEO of electric car maker Tesla, currently holds a roughly 9% stake.
Yeah, but he had to know that was coming next. Does anybody here really think there aren't wheels within wheels?
Does anybody here think that there’s maybe more to this than him being a knight in shining armor regarding the sanctity of free speech?
This is only about free speech insofar as Twitter is not really a fan currently. But who actually thinks Musk is some kind of first amendment advocate aside from internet morons?
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@LuFins-Dad said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@George-K said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Twitter is trying to thwart billionaire Elon Musk’s takeover attempt with a “poison pill” — a financial device that companies have been wielding against unwelcome suitors for decades.
WHAT ARE POISON PILLS SUPPOSED TO DO?
The ingredients of each poison pill vary, but they’re all designed to give corporate boards an option to flood the market with so much newly created stock that a takeover becomes prohibitively expensive. The strategy was popularized back in the 1980s when publicly held companies were being stalked by corporate raiders such as Carl Icahn — now more frequently described as “activist investors.”
Twitter didn’t disclose the details of its poison pill Friday, but said it would provide more information in a forthcoming filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which the company delayed because public markets were closed Friday.
The San Francisco company’s plan will be triggered if a shareholder accumulates a stake of 15% or more. Musk, best known as CEO of electric car maker Tesla, currently holds a roughly 9% stake.
Yeah, but he had to know that was coming next. Does anybody here really think there aren't wheels within wheels?
Does anybody here think that there’s maybe more to this than him being a knight in shining armor regarding the sanctity of free speech?
@Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Does anybody here think that there’s maybe more to this than him being a knight in shining armor regarding the sanctity of free speech?
His goal was to make who rule the twitter world and those who use the twitter world to all agree that free speech is bad.
Why would he do that?
We can only hope that none of the talent on our news outlets give in to the temptation to speculate.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Does anybody here think that there’s maybe more to this than him being a knight in shining armor regarding the sanctity of free speech?
His goal was to make who rule the twitter world and those who use the twitter world to all agree that free speech is bad.
Why would he do that?
We can only hope that none of the talent on our news outlets give in to the temptation to speculate.
@Copper said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
We can only hope that none of the talent on our news outlets give in to the temptation to speculate.
Maybe the great armchair philosopher Tucker Carlson has an opinion. He seems to have one on pretty much everything else.
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Go get 'em, tiger.
Twitter has seriously underperformed, in part due to it banning or seriously curtailing some people who had millions of followers... Trump, Tucker, Bongino, etc.
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Go get 'em, tiger.
Twitter has seriously underperformed, in part due to it banning or seriously curtailing some people who had millions of followers... Trump, Tucker, Bongino, etc.
@Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Go get 'em, tiger.
Twitter has seriously underperformed, in part due to it banning or seriously curtailing some people who had millions of followers... Trump, Tucker, Bongino, etc.
That's like saying a backup quarterback sucks ass. Compared to the most popular social media platforms on the planet, Twitter's still in the top 10, and 1 in 7 Americans use it regularly. That ain't nothin'.
And banning Trump has nothing to do with its not being #1. Nothing at all. Scads of conservatives are on there and have no problem with the platform. It's simply not as entertaining to use as YouTube, not as personal as Facebook, and not as addictive as TikTok.
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@Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Go get 'em, tiger.
Twitter has seriously underperformed, in part due to it banning or seriously curtailing some people who had millions of followers... Trump, Tucker, Bongino, etc.
That's like saying a backup quarterback sucks ass. Compared to the most popular social media platforms on the planet, Twitter's still in the top 10, and 1 in 7 Americans use it regularly. That ain't nothin'.
And banning Trump has nothing to do with its not being #1. Nothing at all. Scads of conservatives are on there and have no problem with the platform. It's simply not as entertaining to use as YouTube, not as personal as Facebook, and not as addictive as TikTok.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Go get 'em, tiger.
Twitter has seriously underperformed, in part due to it banning or seriously curtailing some people who had millions of followers... Trump, Tucker, Bongino, etc.
That's like saying a backup quarterback sucks ass. Compared to the most popular social media platforms on the planet, Twitter's still in the top 10, and 1 in 7 Americans use it regularly. That ain't nothin'.
And banning Trump has nothing to do with its not being #1. Nothing at all. Scads of conservatives are on there and have no problem with the platform. It's simply not as entertaining to use as YouTube, not as personal as Facebook, and not as addictive as TikTok.
Put your head in a bucket of water and take a deep breath.
In just the three names I mentioned, you have millions of followers with tens of millions of hits on their tweets or the tweet thread...That ain't chicken feed.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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July 15 2019
About one-in-five adult Twitter users in the U.S. follow Trump
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Go get 'em, tiger.
Twitter has seriously underperformed, in part due to it banning or seriously curtailing some people who had millions of followers... Trump, Tucker, Bongino, etc.
That's like saying a backup quarterback sucks ass. Compared to the most popular social media platforms on the planet, Twitter's still in the top 10, and 1 in 7 Americans use it regularly. That ain't nothin'.
And banning Trump has nothing to do with its not being #1. Nothing at all. Scads of conservatives are on there and have no problem with the platform. It's simply not as entertaining to use as YouTube, not as personal as Facebook, and not as addictive as TikTok.
Put your head in a bucket of water and take a deep breath.
In just the three names I mentioned, you have millions of followers with tens of millions of hits on their tweets or the tweet thread...That ain't chicken feed.
@Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Go get 'em, tiger.
Twitter has seriously underperformed, in part due to it banning or seriously curtailing some people who had millions of followers... Trump, Tucker, Bongino, etc.
That's like saying a backup quarterback sucks ass. Compared to the most popular social media platforms on the planet, Twitter's still in the top 10, and 1 in 7 Americans use it regularly. That ain't nothin'.
And banning Trump has nothing to do with its not being #1. Nothing at all. Scads of conservatives are on there and have no problem with the platform. It's simply not as entertaining to use as YouTube, not as personal as Facebook, and not as addictive as TikTok.
Put your head in a bucket of water and take a deep breath.
In just the three names I mentioned, you have millions of followers with tens of millions of hits on their tweets or the tweet thread...That ain't chicken feed.
It's a common fallacy among people who don't use Twitter to believe the platform is exactly like it's portrayed in outrage porn articles. The vast majority of Twitter doesn't care about any of that. Individuals, influencers, small companies, non-profits, corporations... they use the platform and couldn't care less that Donald Drumpf was banned.
Please love yourself.
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@Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Go get 'em, tiger.
Twitter has seriously underperformed, in part due to it banning or seriously curtailing some people who had millions of followers... Trump, Tucker, Bongino, etc.
That's like saying a backup quarterback sucks ass. Compared to the most popular social media platforms on the planet, Twitter's still in the top 10, and 1 in 7 Americans use it regularly. That ain't nothin'.
And banning Trump has nothing to do with its not being #1. Nothing at all. Scads of conservatives are on there and have no problem with the platform. It's simply not as entertaining to use as YouTube, not as personal as Facebook, and not as addictive as TikTok.
Put your head in a bucket of water and take a deep breath.
In just the three names I mentioned, you have millions of followers with tens of millions of hits on their tweets or the tweet thread...That ain't chicken feed.
It's a common fallacy among people who don't use Twitter to believe the platform is exactly like it's portrayed in outrage porn articles. The vast majority of Twitter doesn't care about any of that. Individuals, influencers, small companies, non-profits, corporations... they use the platform and couldn't care less that Donald Drumpf was banned.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Go get 'em, tiger.
Twitter has seriously underperformed, in part due to it banning or seriously curtailing some people who had millions of followers... Trump, Tucker, Bongino, etc.
That's like saying a backup quarterback sucks ass. Compared to the most popular social media platforms on the planet, Twitter's still in the top 10, and 1 in 7 Americans use it regularly. That ain't nothin'.
And banning Trump has nothing to do with its not being #1. Nothing at all. Scads of conservatives are on there and have no problem with the platform. It's simply not as entertaining to use as YouTube, not as personal as Facebook, and not as addictive as TikTok.
Put your head in a bucket of water and take a deep breath.
In just the three names I mentioned, you have millions of followers with tens of millions of hits on their tweets or the tweet thread...That ain't chicken feed.
It's a common fallacy among people who don't use Twitter to believe the platform is exactly like it's portrayed in outrage porn articles. The vast majority of Twitter doesn't care about any of that. Individuals, influencers, small companies, non-profits, corporations... they use the platform and couldn't care less that Donald Drumpf was banned.
That's all well and good.
Now add in all the activity from reading and responding to Trump and those other people. For example, look at CNN's ratings after Trump left office. Twitter is leaving meat on the bone.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Go get 'em, tiger.
Twitter has seriously underperformed, in part due to it banning or seriously curtailing some people who had millions of followers... Trump, Tucker, Bongino, etc.
That's like saying a backup quarterback sucks ass. Compared to the most popular social media platforms on the planet, Twitter's still in the top 10, and 1 in 7 Americans use it regularly. That ain't nothin'.
And banning Trump has nothing to do with its not being #1. Nothing at all. Scads of conservatives are on there and have no problem with the platform. It's simply not as entertaining to use as YouTube, not as personal as Facebook, and not as addictive as TikTok.
Put your head in a bucket of water and take a deep breath.
In just the three names I mentioned, you have millions of followers with tens of millions of hits on their tweets or the tweet thread...That ain't chicken feed.
It's a common fallacy among people who don't use Twitter to believe the platform is exactly like it's portrayed in outrage porn articles. The vast majority of Twitter doesn't care about any of that. Individuals, influencers, small companies, non-profits, corporations... they use the platform and couldn't care less that Donald Drumpf was banned.
That's all well and good.
Now add in all the activity from reading and responding to Trump and those other people. For example, look at CNN's ratings after Trump left office. Twitter is leaving meat on the bone.
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@Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Twitter is leaving meat on the bone.
Amazing how no other competitors have stepped up to pick off those meat Twitter left on the bone, eh?
@Axtremus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
@Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:
Twitter is leaving meat on the bone.
Amazing how no other competitors have stepped up to pick off those meat Twitter left on the bone, eh?
To Jolly's point, they literally have. Instagram, YouTube and Facebook have four to ten times the user base that Twitter has. But for example, Twitter has about 100 million more users than America has citizens, so the Donald Trump thing is just a drop in the bucket. It really doesn't matter in the big scheme of things.
