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    George K
    wrote on 1 Apr 2022, 11:54 last edited by George K 4 Jan 2022, 11:57
    #1

    I love Gary Oldman (his Beethoven was fabulous, if you recall), and I love spy stories.

    This looks like it might be fun:

    https://tv.apple.com/us/show/slow-horses/umc.cmc.2szz3fdt71tl1ulnbp8utgq5o?ign-itscg=30200&ign-itsct=tv_box_link

    From the trailer, "Getting you up to speed is like trying to explain Norway to a dog."

    "I didn't mean to kill him!"
    "Of course not. If you'd meant to kill him, he'd still be alive."

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      George K
      wrote on 15 Jul 2022, 23:11 last edited by
      #2

      Meh.

      Some interesting ideas, but the series can't decide whether it wants to be a light-hearted dramady about MI5 misfits, or a serious conspirator story about the "deep state spy service."

      Oldman does his best to play a crotchety, burnt-out, spymaster with a more than checkered past. The supporting cast is good, and Kirstin Scott Thomas is just evil enough to make you want to hate her.

      It seems unnecessarily drawn out, with the main plot (a kidnapping) taking too many twists and turns which add nothing to the story.

      Just a touch below 3 out of four stars.

      Worth watching just for Gary Oldman.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        15 Jul 2022, 23:11

        Meh.

        Some interesting ideas, but the series can't decide whether it wants to be a light-hearted dramady about MI5 misfits, or a serious conspirator story about the "deep state spy service."

        Oldman does his best to play a crotchety, burnt-out, spymaster with a more than checkered past. The supporting cast is good, and Kirstin Scott Thomas is just evil enough to make you want to hate her.

        It seems unnecessarily drawn out, with the main plot (a kidnapping) taking too many twists and turns which add nothing to the story.

        Just a touch below 3 out of four stars.

        Worth watching just for Gary Oldman.

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        Aqua Letifer
        wrote on 16 Jul 2022, 23:19 last edited by
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        @George-K said in Slow Horses:

        Meh.

        Some interesting ideas, but the series can't decide whether it wants to be a light-hearted dramady about MI5 misfits, or a serious conspirator story about the "deep state spy service."

        Oldman does his best to play a crotchety, burnt-out, spymaster with a more than checkered past. The supporting cast is good, and Kirstin Scott Thomas is just evil enough to make you want to hate her.

        It seems unnecessarily drawn out, with the main plot (a kidnapping) taking too many twists and turns which add nothing to the story.

        Just a touch below 3 out of four stars.

        Worth watching just for Gary Oldman.

        Did you see the whole season? I didn't think they flubbed the genre mixing.

        Please love yourself.

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          15 Jul 2022, 23:11

          Meh.

          Some interesting ideas, but the series can't decide whether it wants to be a light-hearted dramady about MI5 misfits, or a serious conspirator story about the "deep state spy service."

          Oldman does his best to play a crotchety, burnt-out, spymaster with a more than checkered past. The supporting cast is good, and Kirstin Scott Thomas is just evil enough to make you want to hate her.

          It seems unnecessarily drawn out, with the main plot (a kidnapping) taking too many twists and turns which add nothing to the story.

          Just a touch below 3 out of four stars.

          Worth watching just for Gary Oldman.

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          Catseye3
          wrote on 16 Jul 2022, 23:26 last edited by
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          @George-K said in Slow Horses:

          Worth watching just for Gary Oldman.

          Anything with Gary Oldman in it is worth watching.

          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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            16 Jul 2022, 23:26

            @George-K said in Slow Horses:

            Worth watching just for Gary Oldman.

            Anything with Gary Oldman in it is worth watching.

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            George K
            wrote on 16 Jul 2022, 23:32 last edited by
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            @Catseye3 said in Slow Horses:

            @George-K said in Slow Horses:

            Worth watching just for Gary Oldman.

            Anything with Gary Oldman in it is worth watching.

            Yeah I almost agree. His "Dracula" was so over the top that it was wonderful and it made me, almost forget Keanu Reeves as Jonathan Harker. As I said, his Beethoven in "Immortal Beloved" was wonderful.

            But, in this role, it's also really over the top, and not in an endearing or interesting way.

            I should read the book.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • G George K
              16 Jul 2022, 23:32

              @Catseye3 said in Slow Horses:

              @George-K said in Slow Horses:

              Worth watching just for Gary Oldman.

              Anything with Gary Oldman in it is worth watching.

              Yeah I almost agree. His "Dracula" was so over the top that it was wonderful and it made me, almost forget Keanu Reeves as Jonathan Harker. As I said, his Beethoven in "Immortal Beloved" was wonderful.

              But, in this role, it's also really over the top, and not in an endearing or interesting way.

              I should read the book.

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              Catseye3
              wrote on 16 Jul 2022, 23:43 last edited by
              #6

              @George-K said in Slow Horses:

              Keanu Reeves as Jonathan Harker

              Ye Gods.

              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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              • C Catseye3
                16 Jul 2022, 23:43

                @George-K said in Slow Horses:

                Keanu Reeves as Jonathan Harker

                Ye Gods.

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                George K
                wrote on 16 Jul 2022, 23:49 last edited by
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                @Catseye3 said in Slow Horses:

                @George-K said in Slow Horses:

                Keanu Reeves as Jonathan Harker

                Ye Gods.

                He wasn't horrible. He wasn't good, but he wasn't horrible.

                I really like this movie because it's pretty faithful to the Stoker story.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • G George K
                  16 Jul 2022, 23:49

                  @Catseye3 said in Slow Horses:

                  @George-K said in Slow Horses:

                  Keanu Reeves as Jonathan Harker

                  Ye Gods.

                  He wasn't horrible. He wasn't good, but he wasn't horrible.

                  I really like this movie because it's pretty faithful to the Stoker story.

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                  Catseye3
                  wrote on 16 Jul 2022, 23:55 last edited by
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                  @George-K said in Slow Horses:

                  He wasn't good, but he wasn't horrible.

                  It seems like unless you were very good in your craft, the Harker role would be fatally easy to overplay -- kind of out-Igoring Igor. "Yeth, Mahthter."

                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 17 Jul 2022, 12:46 last edited by
                    #9

                    Since we just finished the first season of Lincoln Lawyer last night (thought it pretty good), we might have to check it out.

                    Keanu Reeves is a bit of a mystery. He can be very good or very bad.

                    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                    • MikM Mik
                      17 Jul 2022, 12:46

                      Since we just finished the first season of Lincoln Lawyer last night (thought it pretty good), we might have to check it out.

                      Keanu Reeves is a bit of a mystery. He can be very good or very bad.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 17 Jul 2022, 12:55 last edited by
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                      @Mik said in Slow Horses:

                      Lincoln Lawyer

                      It was OK. It's not Bosch, though, supposedly more true to the books than the movie was.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 17 Jul 2022, 12:58 last edited by Mik
                        #11

                        I recognized the plot twists and characters. I really enjoyed it. He creates characters you actually like and are invested in. Both shows used LA to great advantage visually. Since I know the city pretty well, I enjoyed that.

                        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 19 Jul 2022, 00:32 last edited by
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                          Just watched E1. Liked it. A bit different than the race to see who can make the darkest show. Oldman is of course great fun to watch and the guy who plays Siegfried Farnum on All Creatures is involved. I’ll watch another.

                          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                          • MikM Mik
                            19 Jul 2022, 00:32

                            Just watched E1. Liked it. A bit different than the race to see who can make the darkest show. Oldman is of course great fun to watch and the guy who plays Siegfried Farnum on All Creatures is involved. I’ll watch another.

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                            Aqua Letifer
                            wrote on 19 Jul 2022, 00:36 last edited by
                            #13

                            @Mik said in Slow Horses:

                            Just watched E1. Liked it. A bit different than the race to see who can make the darkest show. Oldman is of course great fun to watch and the guy who plays Siegfried Farnum on All Creatures is involved. I’ll watch another.

                            I'd say stick it out for at least half the season. It takes that long to really get a feel for it, but it's still not for everybody.

                            Please love yourself.

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                            • A Aqua Letifer
                              19 Jul 2022, 00:36

                              @Mik said in Slow Horses:

                              Just watched E1. Liked it. A bit different than the race to see who can make the darkest show. Oldman is of course great fun to watch and the guy who plays Siegfried Farnum on All Creatures is involved. I’ll watch another.

                              I'd say stick it out for at least half the season. It takes that long to really get a feel for it, but it's still not for everybody.

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                              George K
                              wrote on 19 Jul 2022, 00:49 last edited by
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                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Slow Horses:

                              I'd say stick it out for at least half the season. It takes that long to really get a feel for it, but it's still not for everybody.

                              Yes. It's a slow burn, but I found much of the "hostage" story to be awkward, and just a bit too politically correct for me. I haven't gotten that far in the book, so I'll reserve judgment.

                              But, Oldman is good at erasing so many sins.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Mik
                                wrote on 20 Jul 2022, 00:29 last edited by
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                                E2 and I’m invested in the characters and the story.

                                "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 12 Aug 2022, 19:24 last edited by
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                                  OK, finished it today My verdict is thumbs up. I liked the plot and the characters and the tone.

                                  "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                  • MikM Mik
                                    12 Aug 2022, 19:24

                                    OK, finished it today My verdict is thumbs up. I liked the plot and the characters and the tone.

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                                    Aqua Letifer
                                    wrote on 12 Aug 2022, 19:28 last edited by
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                                    @Mik said in Slow Horses:

                                    OK, finished it today My verdict is thumbs up. I liked the plot and the characters and the tone.

                                    Rad. 😁 I agree with George's criticisms, but on the whole I still like it despite the shortcomings.

                                    What I like about it: every character kind of belongs to a different genre.
                                    • River & his uncle: Jason Bourne type shit.
                                    • Min & Louisa: romcom with some drama thrown in
                                    • Standish: drama
                                    • Lamb: tragi-comedy
                                    • Roddy: mostly comedy

                                    Kind of a cool way to mess around with tone.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 27 Dec 2023, 22:12 last edited by
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                                      S3 is great so far.

                                      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 27 Dec 2023, 22:24 last edited by
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                                        I really don't remember much of S2, so I'm reviewing it. I do remember being not so impressed with S2.

                                        Still feel that way.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          bachophile
                                          wrote on 4 Sept 2024, 15:13 last edited by
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                                          season 4 just dropped on apple tv

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