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Google: "Thou shalt not tell Biden jokes."

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    Go to google.com and type in "Biden Jokes"

    Here's what you'll see.

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    As in "Biden jokes about...."

    Now do Trump:

    Screen Shot 2022-03-31 at 6.44.58 AM.png

    Hmmm...Jokes about Trump.

    Surely it's not Google, but something else.

    OK, let's do "Biden Jokes" at DuckDuckGo

    Screen Shot 2022-03-31 at 6.50.53 AM.png

    Interesting. Jokes about Biden.

    Trump Jokes

    Screen Shot 2022-03-31 at 6.53.31 AM.png

    Why, it's almost as though Google is trying to not let you see jokes about Biden.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • KlausK Offline
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      Klaus
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      I'm not convinced that this is intentional.

      First of all, the search algorithms are highly complex and they tend to produce strange results in many cases that nobody can explain. Maybe, with a slightly different wording, you could produce the opposite result.

      Secondly, what would Google have to win? The upside is minimal, but the downside if they'd be caught intentionally manipulating the results is dramatic.

      George KG taiwan_girlT 2 Replies Last reply
      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
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        If a cat barks, I'm surprised. When a dog does, I'm not.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • AxtremusA Away
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          Axtremus
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          #4

          It’s good that different search sites produce somewhat different results, that’s how you know one search site is not just outsourcing its search function to another search site under the hood, and consumers still have meaningful choices in this matter.

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          • KlausK Klaus

            I'm not convinced that this is intentional.

            First of all, the search algorithms are highly complex and they tend to produce strange results in many cases that nobody can explain. Maybe, with a slightly different wording, you could produce the opposite result.

            Secondly, what would Google have to win? The upside is minimal, but the downside if they'd be caught intentionally manipulating the results is dramatic.

            George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            @Klaus said in Google: "Thou shalt not tell Biden jokes.":

            I'm not convinced that this is intentional.

            And yet, you see what I posted. Intentional or not, the pages are legit. DuckDuckGo gives dramatically different results. More, ahem, "fair and balanced."

            First of all, the search algorithms are highly complex and they tend to produce strange results in many cases that nobody can explain. Maybe, with a slightly different wording, you could produce the opposite result.

            Maybe. But I'm too lazy to try. Presumably the same algorithm is applied in both searches with various qualifiers, such as "If 'Biden' then go here," "If 'Trump', go there."

            Secondly, what would Google have to win? The upside is minimal, but the downside if they'd be caught intentionally manipulating the results is dramatic.

            We've already seen, on multiple occasions how Google (and others) adjust what your search reveals, and what it doesn't).

            Upside? Feeds their clientele.

            Downside? They don't care. They don't have to.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
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              Russia to Google: "You shall not call it a 'war'."

              Google: Okay

              In early March, contractors working for Google to translate company text for the Russian market received an update from their client: Effective immediately, the ongoing Russian war against Ukraine could no longer be referred to as a war but rather only vaguely as “extraordinary circumstances.”

              The internal email, obtained by The Intercept, was sent by management at a firm that translates corporate texts and app interfaces for Google and other clients.

              The email passed along instructions from Google with the new wording. The instructions also noted that the word “war” should continue to be used in other markets and that the policy change was intended to keep Google in compliance with a Russian censorship law enacted just after the invasion of Ukraine.

              Asked about the guidance, Google spokesperson Alex Krasov told The Intercept, “While we’ve paused Google ads and the vast majority of our commercial activities in Russia, we remain focused on the safety of our local employees. As has been widely reported, current laws restrict communications within Russia. This does not apply to our information services like Search and YouTube.”

              According to a translator who spoke to The Intercept, the orders apply to all Google products translated into Russian, including Google Maps, Gmail, AdWords, and Google’s policies and communications with users. (The translator asked for anonymity to avoid reprisal by their employer.)

              The internal memo helps explain why some Google webpages, including an advertising policy and video help document found by The Intercept, use euphemistic terms like “emergency in Ukraine” in their Russian version but “war in Ukraine” in the English version.

              The censorship law, signed by Russian President Vladimir Putin on March 4, created harsh criminal penalties of up to 15 years in prison for disseminating so-called false information about the Russian military. This is widely believed to include referring to Russia’s assault on Ukraine as a war or invasion, given that the Kremlin had previously drawn a hard line against such terms. The Kremlin calls the war a “special military operation,” and its internet censorship board has reportedly threatened to block websites that use terms like “invasion.”

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • KlausK Klaus

                I'm not convinced that this is intentional.

                First of all, the search algorithms are highly complex and they tend to produce strange results in many cases that nobody can explain. Maybe, with a slightly different wording, you could produce the opposite result.

                Secondly, what would Google have to win? The upside is minimal, but the downside if they'd be caught intentionally manipulating the results is dramatic.

                taiwan_girlT Offline
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                taiwan_girl
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                @Klaus said in Google: "Thou shalt not tell Biden jokes.":

                I'm not convinced that this is intentional.

                First of all, the search algorithms are highly complex and they tend to produce strange results in many cases that nobody can explain. Maybe, with a slightly different wording, you could produce the opposite result.

                Secondly, what would Google have to win? The upside is minimal, but the downside if they'd be caught intentionally manipulating the results is dramatic.

                I kind of agree with Kalus on this. Seems strange that someone with authority would take the time and effort to do this. I dont think it is something that you could do in a minute or two. And would they really be sure they were getting the results they want.

                But maybe. Who knows. 🤷

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                • HoraceH Offline
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                  Horace
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                  I’m going to name my next warrior character in an RPG Kalus. Great name, TG.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • KlausK Offline
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                    Klaus
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                    Hmm...

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                    • HoraceH Offline
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                      Horace
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                      #10

                      Kalus McCleod, the thickly muscled claymore wielding Nordic warrior in a kilt. TG, shame on you for picturing that. Klaus is not an object.

                      Education is extremely important.

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