The Resident Gaffes Again
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@Aqua-Letifer said in The Resident Gaffes Again:
@LuFins-Dad said in The Resident Gaffes Again:
There's room for interpretation when dealing with other languages, but English to English? "In kind" specifically means "in like fashion". The implication is obvious and it's unnecessary rhetoric. If he wants to say that the US will respond with force, then say so. This implies unconventional weapons.
What do you think Biden should have said, and what intelligence briefings have you been in that led you to that conclusion?
I'm not saying Biden isn't a fuckup. But we have absolutely no idea what's going on.
Unfortunately, neither does Biden.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in The Resident Gaffes Again:
@LuFins-Dad said in The Resident Gaffes Again:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Resident Gaffes Again:
@LuFins-Dad said in The Resident Gaffes Again:
There's room for interpretation when dealing with other languages, but English to English? "In kind" specifically means "in like fashion". The implication is obvious and it's unnecessary rhetoric. If he wants to say that the US will respond with force, then say so. This implies unconventional weapons.
What do you think Biden should have said, and what intelligence briefings have you been in that led you to that conclusion?
I'm not saying Biden isn't a fuckup. But we have absolutely no idea what's going on.
I would not have said in essence "If you use chemical weapons, we use chemical weapons". That's for sure.
How do you know that's the wrong thing to say? Based on what?
Threatening war crimes is never a good idea. And judging by how quickly the White House and all of those people that do receive the briefings and have the appropriate training walked back the statement, it would seem that they agree. At least in this case.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in The Resident Gaffes Again:
I just think playing Armchair Commander-In-Chief with respect to a war escalation is pretty much what "hubris" as a word was derived for.
There's no football on at the moment, so people can't opine convincingly about what a hopeless fool Bill Belichick or somebody is.
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@LuFins-Dad said in The Resident Gaffes Again:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Resident Gaffes Again:
@LuFins-Dad said in The Resident Gaffes Again:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Resident Gaffes Again:
@LuFins-Dad said in The Resident Gaffes Again:
There's room for interpretation when dealing with other languages, but English to English? "In kind" specifically means "in like fashion". The implication is obvious and it's unnecessary rhetoric. If he wants to say that the US will respond with force, then say so. This implies unconventional weapons.
What do you think Biden should have said, and what intelligence briefings have you been in that led you to that conclusion?
I'm not saying Biden isn't a fuckup. But we have absolutely no idea what's going on.
I would not have said in essence "If you use chemical weapons, we use chemical weapons". That's for sure.
How do you know that's the wrong thing to say? Based on what?
Threatening war crimes is never a good idea.
How so?
And judging by how quickly the White House and all of those people that do receive the briefings and have the appropriate training walked back the statement, it would seem that they agree. At least in this case.
If we can presume Trump is smart enough to play 12-D chess without any evidence, then suggesting this might also be a strategy is not out of line. After all, I have just as much evidence for that as you do that he gaffed. Which to say none. Literally at all.
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@Aqua-Letifer: We don't need no stinkin' evidence, gringo!
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@Aqua-Letifer said in The Resident Gaffes Again:
@LuFins-Dad said in The Resident Gaffes Again:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Resident Gaffes Again:
@LuFins-Dad said in The Resident Gaffes Again:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Resident Gaffes Again:
@LuFins-Dad said in The Resident Gaffes Again:
There's room for interpretation when dealing with other languages, but English to English? "In kind" specifically means "in like fashion". The implication is obvious and it's unnecessary rhetoric. If he wants to say that the US will respond with force, then say so. This implies unconventional weapons.
What do you think Biden should have said, and what intelligence briefings have you been in that led you to that conclusion?
I'm not saying Biden isn't a fuckup. But we have absolutely no idea what's going on.
I would not have said in essence "If you use chemical weapons, we use chemical weapons". That's for sure.
How do you know that's the wrong thing to say? Based on what?
Threatening war crimes is never a good idea.
How so?
And judging by how quickly the White House and all of those people that do receive the briefings and have the appropriate training walked back the statement, it would seem that they agree. At least in this case.
If we can presume Trump is smart enough to play 12-D chess without any evidence, then suggesting this might also be a strategy is not out of line. After all, I have just as much evidence for that as you do that he gaffed. Which to say none. Literally at all.
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Occam’s razor, dude. The simplest answer is usually the truth. And the simplest answer is Biden’s mouth got away from him. Repeatedly. He kind of has a history.
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Fo you recall me talking about Trump’s brilliant 12 D strategies? I don’t.
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Basic negotiation principles. Biden is not speaking from a position of strength, here, and his entire strategy has been one of partnership. Being simply a part of a coalition. And I’m not demeaning that strategy at all. But now, all of a sudden he’s going to start getting internet muscles? Weak sauce and unnecessary at this point. And yes, I have studied and know a bit about negotiation and influencing others.
The Brad
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@LuFins-Dad said in The Resident Gaffes Again:
- Occam’s razor, dude. The simplest answer is usually the truth. And the simplest answer is Biden’s mouth got away from him. Repeatedly. He kind of has a history.
Yeah, he does.
- Fo you recall me talking about Trump’s brilliant 12 D strategies? I don’t.
I'm just saying, it's possible.
- Basic negotiation principles. Biden is not speaking from a position of strength, here, and his entire strategy has been one of partnership. Being simply a part of a coalition. And I’m not demeaning that strategy at all. But now, all of a sudden he’s going to start getting internet muscles? Weak sauce and unnecessary at this point. And yes, I have studied and know a bit about negotiation and influencing others.
I'm not saying you're bad at that, I'm just saying that you and I don't really know much of anything with respect to what's really going on between the U.S. and Russia at this point. We're criticizing animal formations in the clouds in my opinion.
Please love yourself.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in The Resident Gaffes Again:
@LuFins-Dad said in The Resident Gaffes Again:
- Occam’s razor, dude. The simplest answer is usually the truth. And the simplest answer is Biden’s mouth got away from him. Repeatedly. He kind of has a history.
Yeah, he does.
- Fo you recall me talking about Trump’s brilliant 12 D strategies? I don’t.
I'm just saying, it's possible.
- Basic negotiation principles. Biden is not speaking from a position of strength, here, and his entire strategy has been one of partnership. Being simply a part of a coalition. And I’m not demeaning that strategy at all. But now, all of a sudden he’s going to start getting internet muscles? Weak sauce and unnecessary at this point. And yes, I have studied and know a bit about negotiation and influencing others.
I'm not saying you're bad at that, I'm just saying that you and I don't really know much of anything with respect to what's really going on between the U.S. and Russia at this point. We're criticizing animal formations in the clouds in my opinion.
If we’re going to start stop criticizing or having strong opinions about subjects that we are not completely informed on, we may as well shutter the joint or just restrict threads to funny cat videos…
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@Doctor-Phibes said in The Resident Gaffes Again:
There's no football on at the moment,
Just a few minutes ago the US men's team beat Panama 5 to 1, in what you chaps call football.
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@Copper said in The Resident Gaffes Again:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Resident Gaffes Again:
There's no football on at the moment,
Just a few minutes ago the US men's team beat Panama 5 to 1, in what you chaps call football.
Nah, that's soccer. A game that would be much more interesting if they let the bull back out in that pasture.
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Putin should be in doubt . . .
I assume you meant in no doubt.
You are correct, that should read “no doubt”A hazard of typing with one finger on an iPhone.
. . . that use of chemical weapons could result in an all out NATO military response in support of Ukraine that will prevail.
Yes, if we're going to respond, then let's do it unmistakably. But how does this comport with your post the other day that such a response might/would compel Putin to heighten his aggression? What then??
Good point. However if he is confident that a NATO response to any use chemical weapons by Russia will not include a military action of “some kind” he can and will escalate as he sees fit. In other words, he maintains the initiative. The situation is changing by the day, if not the hour, and in ways not in his favour. Hence the recent talk of focussing attention on the eastern regions and possible partitioning of Ukraine into east and west. He is creating his own off ramp. Our response should be increasing pressure to continue to draw down his forces and mitigate his imperial designs and rhetoric.
I really do not think Biden is doing that bad of a job of breaking Putin’s confidence and swagger.
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@Jolly said in The Resident Gaffes Again:
I have it on good authority presidents cannot move markets.
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@taiwan_girl said in The Resident Gaffes Again:
@Jolly said in The Resident Gaffes Again:
I have it on good authority presidents cannot move markets.
Your teachings are catching on here TG. I will try to take a lesson. I feel many of my teachings fall on deaf ears.
