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    George K
    wrote on 25 Mar 2022, 20:31 last edited by
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    She's reviewing some papers written by her students (Internship applications? Dissertation proposals?)

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    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Catseye3
      wrote on 25 Mar 2022, 20:32 last edited by
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      I'd say "with", but I can't really think of a good reason not to use "in".

      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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        Copper
        wrote on 25 Mar 2022, 20:45 last edited by
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        https://www.grammarbook.com/homonyms/in-regards-to-with-regards-to.asp#:~:text=In regard to and with,in crime%2C with regards to.

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          Horace
          wrote on 25 Mar 2022, 20:45 last edited by
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          Regarding. Simpler word choice and unambiguously correct.

          Education is extremely important.

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            Klaus
            wrote on 25 Mar 2022, 20:47 last edited by
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            How about the good old and brief WRT instead?

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              Mik
              wrote on 25 Mar 2022, 20:49 last edited by
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              It's 'in response to' and 'with regard to'. Otherwise, I like Horace's suggestion. Less is more.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • K Klaus
                25 Mar 2022, 20:47

                How about the good old and brief WRT instead?

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                Horace
                wrote on 25 Mar 2022, 20:49 last edited by
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                @Klaus said in Grammar question from D2:

                How about the good old and brief WRT instead?

                Acronyms are a crutch for the verbally weak, i.e. those who use acronyms, QED.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  Klaus
                  wrote on 25 Mar 2022, 20:51 last edited by
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                  • K Klaus
                    25 Mar 2022, 20:47

                    How about the good old and brief WRT instead?

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                    George K
                    wrote on 25 Mar 2022, 21:02 last edited by
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                    @Klaus said in Grammar question from D2:

                    How about the good old and brief WRT instead?

                    Of course, but not for a dissertation proposal, right Herr Professor?

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      George K
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                      Sometimes, my kids can make me proud:

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                      https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/the-plural-of/ideation.html

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                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • G George K
                        25 Mar 2022, 20:31

                        She's reviewing some papers written by her students (Internship applications? Dissertation proposals?)

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                        Aqua Letifer
                        wrote on 25 Mar 2022, 21:28 last edited by
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                        @George-K said in Grammar question from D2:

                        She's reviewing some papers written by her students (Internship applications? Dissertation proposals?)

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                        Regarding.

                        Never use 3 words when 1 will do.

                        Please love yourself.

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                          Catseye3
                          wrote on 25 Mar 2022, 21:31 last edited by
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                          Tho I wouldn't weep if the rule about no prepositions at the end of sentences were to go away.

                          Here's another one whose time has passed: Since 99.97% of people misuse the expression "begging the question", we might as well give up and apply it the "wrong" way.

                          Also; "Hopefully".

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                            25 Mar 2022, 21:28

                            @George-K said in Grammar question from D2:

                            She's reviewing some papers written by her students (Internship applications? Dissertation proposals?)

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                            Regarding.

                            Never use 3 words when 1 will do.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 25 Mar 2022, 21:36 last edited by
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                            @Aqua-Letifer thoughts on prepositions at the end of a sentence.

                            Is this something I can end a statement with?

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • G George K
                              25 Mar 2022, 21:02

                              @Klaus said in Grammar question from D2:

                              How about the good old and brief WRT instead?

                              Of course, but not for a dissertation proposal, right Herr Professor?

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                              Klaus
                              wrote on 25 Mar 2022, 21:54 last edited by
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                              @George-K said in Grammar question from D2:

                              @Klaus said in Grammar question from D2:

                              How about the good old and brief WRT instead?

                              Of course, but not for a dissertation proposal, right Herr Professor?

                              In science lingo, it's written w.r.t. and is actually very common in Math-y papers and it has a quasi-formal meaning there (it is used to designate the independent variable of something). It's almost as common as my favorite math acronym, namely w.l.o.g.

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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on 25 Mar 2022, 22:00 last edited by
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                                Half my working life is spent correcting the grammar of engineers. I'm supposed to be doing technical reviews, but none of them can right forshit.

                                I had one guy who was a veritable wordsmith, but he was transferred last year.

                                I was only joking

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                                  25 Mar 2022, 22:00

                                  Half my working life is spent correcting the grammar of engineers. I'm supposed to be doing technical reviews, but none of them can right forshit.

                                  I had one guy who was a veritable wordsmith, but he was transferred last year.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 25 Mar 2022, 22:09 last edited by
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                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Grammar question from D2:

                                  but none of them can right forshit.

                                  Fuck you, Siri.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • G George K
                                    25 Mar 2022, 21:36

                                    @Aqua-Letifer thoughts on prepositions at the end of a sentence.

                                    Is this something I can end a statement with?

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                                    Aqua Letifer
                                    wrote on 25 Mar 2022, 22:32 last edited by
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                                    @George-K said in Grammar question from D2:

                                    @Aqua-Letifer thoughts on prepositions at the end of a sentence.

                                    Is this something I can end a statement with?

                                    The word "period" in this context originally meant to incorporate a rest in your greek play's line delivery. And so you ended lines on a dramatic note so that it stuck with the audience during the rest. Whatever you end with will resonate, so end strongly. Verbs are the most potent words, followed closely by nouns. It's better to end on them than other words, so, stick to that if you can. But sometimes it's outright barbarous to avoid ending with a preposition, and it should be noted that we tend to interpret in phrases sometimes, as word clusters can have a meaning of their own. So it's not inherently bad writing to end with a preposition. It's just usually weak writing.

                                    tl;dr — It's a great guideline. It's not a rule.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 25 Mar 2022, 22:51 last edited by
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                                      Hint: a hotdog is not a sandwich

                                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                                        25 Mar 2022, 22:51

                                        Hint: a hotdog is not a sandwich

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                                        Aqua Letifer
                                        wrote on 25 Mar 2022, 22:51 last edited by
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                                        @jon-nyc said in Grammar question from D2:

                                        Hint: a hotdog is not a sandwich

                                        Fuck you say.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                          Larry
                                          wrote on 26 Mar 2022, 00:55 last edited by
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                                          One that just chaps my ass is the way the entire English speaking world uses the word "seen".

                                          "I seen it happen..." it's as if the word "saw" doesn't exist any more...

                                          Another one that grates on my nerves can be seen in for sale by owner ads,

                                          "I have a ______ for sell. I would like to sale it for _______"

                                          Sometimes you'll even see "I would like to sail it for _______"

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