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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    She's reviewing some papers written by her students (Internship applications? Dissertation proposals?)

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    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • Catseye3C Offline
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      Catseye3
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      I'd say "with", but I can't really think of a good reason not to use "in".

      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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      • CopperC Offline
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        https://www.grammarbook.com/homonyms/in-regards-to-with-regards-to.asp#:~:text=In regard to and with,in crime%2C with regards to.

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        • HoraceH Offline
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          Horace
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          Regarding. Simpler word choice and unambiguously correct.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • KlausK Offline
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            Klaus
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            How about the good old and brief WRT instead?

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            • MikM Offline
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              It's 'in response to' and 'with regard to'. Otherwise, I like Horace's suggestion. Less is more.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • KlausK Klaus

                How about the good old and brief WRT instead?

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                Horace
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                @Klaus said in Grammar question from D2:

                How about the good old and brief WRT instead?

                Acronyms are a crutch for the verbally weak, i.e. those who use acronyms, QED.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  • KlausK Klaus

                    How about the good old and brief WRT instead?

                    George KG Offline
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                    @Klaus said in Grammar question from D2:

                    How about the good old and brief WRT instead?

                    Of course, but not for a dissertation proposal, right Herr Professor?

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
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                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG George K

                        She's reviewing some papers written by her students (Internship applications? Dissertation proposals?)

                        Screen Shot 2022-03-25 at 3.30.46 PM.png

                        Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                        Aqua Letifer
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                        @George-K said in Grammar question from D2:

                        She's reviewing some papers written by her students (Internship applications? Dissertation proposals?)

                        Screen Shot 2022-03-25 at 3.30.46 PM.png

                        Regarding.

                        Never use 3 words when 1 will do.

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • Catseye3C Offline
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                          Tho I wouldn't weep if the rule about no prepositions at the end of sentences were to go away.

                          Here's another one whose time has passed: Since 99.97% of people misuse the expression "begging the question", we might as well give up and apply it the "wrong" way.

                          Also; "Hopefully".

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                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                            @George-K said in Grammar question from D2:

                            She's reviewing some papers written by her students (Internship applications? Dissertation proposals?)

                            Screen Shot 2022-03-25 at 3.30.46 PM.png

                            Regarding.

                            Never use 3 words when 1 will do.

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                            George K
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                            #13

                            @Aqua-Letifer thoughts on prepositions at the end of a sentence.

                            Is this something I can end a statement with?

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • George KG George K

                              @Klaus said in Grammar question from D2:

                              How about the good old and brief WRT instead?

                              Of course, but not for a dissertation proposal, right Herr Professor?

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                              @George-K said in Grammar question from D2:

                              @Klaus said in Grammar question from D2:

                              How about the good old and brief WRT instead?

                              Of course, but not for a dissertation proposal, right Herr Professor?

                              In science lingo, it's written w.r.t. and is actually very common in Math-y papers and it has a quasi-formal meaning there (it is used to designate the independent variable of something). It's almost as common as my favorite math acronym, namely w.l.o.g.

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                                Half my working life is spent correcting the grammar of engineers. I'm supposed to be doing technical reviews, but none of them can right forshit.

                                I had one guy who was a veritable wordsmith, but he was transferred last year.

                                I was only joking

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                  Half my working life is spent correcting the grammar of engineers. I'm supposed to be doing technical reviews, but none of them can right forshit.

                                  I had one guy who was a veritable wordsmith, but he was transferred last year.

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                                  George K
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                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Grammar question from D2:

                                  but none of them can right forshit.

                                  Fuck you, Siri.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    @Aqua-Letifer thoughts on prepositions at the end of a sentence.

                                    Is this something I can end a statement with?

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                                    Aqua Letifer
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                                    @George-K said in Grammar question from D2:

                                    @Aqua-Letifer thoughts on prepositions at the end of a sentence.

                                    Is this something I can end a statement with?

                                    The word "period" in this context originally meant to incorporate a rest in your greek play's line delivery. And so you ended lines on a dramatic note so that it stuck with the audience during the rest. Whatever you end with will resonate, so end strongly. Verbs are the most potent words, followed closely by nouns. It's better to end on them than other words, so, stick to that if you can. But sometimes it's outright barbarous to avoid ending with a preposition, and it should be noted that we tend to interpret in phrases sometimes, as word clusters can have a meaning of their own. So it's not inherently bad writing to end with a preposition. It's just usually weak writing.

                                    tl;dr — It's a great guideline. It's not a rule.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                      Hint: a hotdog is not a sandwich

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        Hint: a hotdog is not a sandwich

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                                        @jon-nyc said in Grammar question from D2:

                                        Hint: a hotdog is not a sandwich

                                        Fuck you say.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                        • LarryL Offline
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                                          Larry
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                                          One that just chaps my ass is the way the entire English speaking world uses the word "seen".

                                          "I seen it happen..." it's as if the word "saw" doesn't exist any more...

                                          Another one that grates on my nerves can be seen in for sale by owner ads,

                                          "I have a ______ for sell. I would like to sale it for _______"

                                          Sometimes you'll even see "I would like to sail it for _______"

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