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Will Twitter ban Ukraine?

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
    wrote on last edited by George K
    #1

    https://www.corriere.it/esteri/22_marzo_23/ucraina-donne-transgender-fuga-respinte-confine-combattere-45637566-aa83-11ec-89dc-0e9cfd23fb65.shtml?&appunica=true&app_v1=true

    Google translation:

    Ukraine, transgender women on the run rejected at the border: "They are men, they must go back to fighting"

    They feel women , they have a completely feminine aspect and their community recognizes them as such, but not their passport , where the male name is still in bold, and the "M" is still engraved next to the gender entry.

    Two words that in recent weeks weigh heavily on hundreds of transgender women fleeing the war in Ukraine.

    According to the martial law in force , male citizens between 18 and 60 are forced to stay in order to serve in the military and defend Ukraine. And among these, therefore, also certified trans men or trans women without any certificate confirming the change.

    Judis, a transgender woman, interviewed by the Guardian, said she felt terror once she arrived at the Ukrainian border: «The guards undress you and touch you everywhere. You can see their faces that are wondering "what are you?" like I'm some kind of animal or something. ' Some of her pulled her hair back to check that she wasn't a wig.

    According to one of the country's transgender human rights associations, about 90% of trans women who arrived at the border, and with only a passport that does not represent them, were forced to go back and take up arms.

    Olena Shevchenko, human rights defender and president of Insight, one of the few Ukrainian LGBTQ + public associations, denounces border discrimination against transgenders in general: "It seems that Ukrainian border guards are also preventing trans people with a certificate valid, which reflects their new kind, to leave the country, and no one knows why ". This is the case of Judis, a trans woman, who was prevented from entering Poland after a long check in the border offices, despite the F next to the word gender.

    Many of these, in their haste to leave their homes and cities under attack, have forgotten their documents at home, many others have never chosen to continue with the long practice that in Ukraine would allow transgender people to legalize their new sex.

    According to Ukrainian law, in fact, changing gender and name is only the last step in a process of psychiatric evaluations, hospitalization and a lot of bureaucracy. Although trans people have been legally recognized since 2017, all this pushes many citizens not to get to the bottom of the practice and remain with the original documents, and therefore not correct.

    According to the International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association, Ukraine ranks 39th out of 49 European countries for the overall treatment reserved for LGBTQ + people.. Furthermore, the Christian Orthodox Church does not allow gay marriages, as they are not legal for the state, and indeed, considers homosexuality a sin.

    In recent days, the Hplgbt organization has also denounced the difficulty of many transgender citizens in finding medicines such as hormonal treatments, the interruption of which is extremely harmful to health, and supplied by the same NGOs to people who remain in the country. Someone in the first days of the conflict managed to escape, even without identity documents, but now the checks have intensified, and with them also the extreme attempts to cross the border, such as corruption that could cost them prison. A fear not too great compared to that of being under the homophobic regime of Russia .

    Rachel Levine scratched her head.

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    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Ew. God. Rachel, don't smile. Please.

      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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      • Catseye3C Catseye3

        Ew. God. Rachel, don't smile. Please.

        George KG Offline
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        George K
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        @Catseye3 said in Will Twitter ban Ukraine?:

        Ew. God. Rachel, don't smile. Please.

        If I were closer, I'd give you a hug for comfort.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Catseye3
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          I'd take it.

          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          • RenaudaR Offline
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            Renauda
            wrote on last edited by Renauda
            #5

            In WWII some of the best Red Army snipers were women. They were the real deal. Not sure if present day trannies understand that nuance.

            Elbows up!

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            • RenaudaR Renauda

              In WWII some of the best Red Army snipers were women. They were the real deal. Not sure if present day trannies understand that nuance.

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              @Renauda said in Will Twitter ban Ukraine?:

              In WWII some of the best Red Army snipers were women. They were the real deal. Not sure if present day trannies understand that nuance.

              This, my friends, is the post of the season.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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