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Abortion. Again.

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    There is action being taken across the nation by Republicans on abortion laws ahead of the Supreme Court’s decision.

    GOP lawmakers in Tennessee have introduced a bill that appears to be similar to Texas’ anti-abortion legislation.

    “This bill is modeled directly after the legislation passed in Texas last year. Abortions, since that bill has been passed, have dropped 60 percent in Texas,” Rep. Rebecca Alexander said as she spoke to a House subcommittee. Alexander is the legislation’s sponsor.

    Virginia’s Republican Attorney General Jason Miyares is calling for Roe v. Wade to be overturned by the Supreme Court.

    In joining 21 other states in calling on the court to invalidate Mississippi’s 15-week abortion ban and reaffirm the ruling in Roe, Virginia joined 21 other states in urging the court to strike down Mississippi’s 15-week abortion ban.

    Miyares wrote the justices a letter stating, “The [new] Attorney General has reconsidered Virginia’s position in this case. Virginia is now of the view that the Constitution is silent on the question of abortion, and that it is therefore up to the people in the several states to determine the legal status and regulatory treatment of abortion.”

    According to Miyares, Virginia joins 19 Republican attorneys general and dozens of red-state governors in calling for states to regulate abortion laws.

    “It is Virginia’s position that the court’s decisions in Roe and Casey were wrongly decided,” he stated, referencing the 1992 case in Planned Parenthood v Casey, in which the ruling barred states from prohibiting abortions before there is viability. “This court should restore judicial neutrality to the abortion debate by permitting the people of the several states to resolve these questions for themselves.”

    Sen. Josh Hawley, a Republican from Missouri, argued last month that Roe v. Wade constitutes the greatest injustice of our lifetimes and that the Supreme Court should correct it.

    Hawley stated in an interview with Breitbart that after Day One of oral arguments, Roe v. Wade was “very much in play.”

    “It would mean the reaching of a landmark goal that I mean, frankly, I have to say just personally, that Roe is one of the reasons that the major reason that I went into politics, and I think that’s true for many, many other people. That’s one of the major reasons I was interested in the law. And this is the greatest injustice of our lifetimes.”

    “I just have to say that someone who believes that that row is one of the worst decisions ever handed down by the Supreme Court, I think it would be a monumental moral landmark and reverse a great injustice.”

    Mississippi legislation that would ban nearly all abortions after 15 weeks is currently being reviewed by the Supreme Court.

    In the hearing, Justice Clarence Thomas posed a question that should have alarmed pro-abortion liberals.

    ”Does a mother have a right to ingest drugs and harm a pre-viable baby? Can the state bring child neglect charges against the mother?“ he inquired.

    The lawyer for Jackson Women’s Health Organization, the organization that wants the law overturned, stated: “That’s not what this case is about, but a woman has a right to make choices about her body.”

    There is a chance that Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Brett Kavanaugh will decide the case.

    It is possible that Roberts and Kavanaugh seek a “middle ground” in which they don’t support reversing Roe v Wade in its entirety:

    Roberts suggested the court could look at Mississippi’s 15-week law as a new viability standard, rather than Roe and Casey, which is over 20 weeks. And Kavanaugh, meanwhile, has asked to confirm that Mississippi isn’t asking the court to outright prohibit abortion, a way to say it’s not overturning Roe while limiting access.

    Justice Brett Kavanaugh asked a question that seems aimed at the arguments made by abortion-rights advocates that a decision overturning Roe v. Wade would be a step towards the Supreme Court eventually issuing a decision that would outlaw abortion nationwide.

    Mississippi is arguing that the Constitution is silent or neutral on the abortion question. Kavanaugh asked Stewart to confirm, which he did.

    Kavanaugh suggested that a majority of states – or at least many states – would maintain abortion access.

    “The Constitution is neither pro-life nor pro-choice … and leaves the issue to the people to resolve in the democratic process,” Kavanaugh concluded.

    Democrats are awakening to a significant problem for their party: winning state legislatures in light of the Supreme Court’s imminent decision on the abortion case.

    The Republican Party holds both chambers of the state legislature and the governorship in 23 states, after more than a decade of heavy investment at the state level. Democratic control is only found in 14 of the states.

    Among the most overlooked concerns of Democratic politics has been the functioning of state legislatures, where Republicans take on culture war issues such as abortion, transgenderism, and teaching critical race theory in schools. Democrats who organize at the state level feel a new sense of urgency as Roe v. Wade, a 1973 Supreme Court decision that guaranteed abortion rights until fetal viability, or about 23 weeks, approaches its end.

    Of course, this comes at a time when the vast majority of Americans disapprove of Democrats in power and how they have run the country into the ground. As Republicans are set to sweep the midterm elections and retake at least the U.S. House, they may see their hold on state legislatures expand. Which would be a fantastic end to a crazy year.

    http://republicbrief.com/us-supreme-court-ready-to-lower-the-gavel-after-thomas-signals-support/

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      There is action being taken across the nation by Republicans on abortion laws ahead of the Supreme Court’s decision.

      GOP lawmakers in Tennessee have introduced a bill that appears to be similar to Texas’ anti-abortion legislation.

      “This bill is modeled directly after the legislation passed in Texas last year. Abortions, since that bill has been passed, have dropped 60 percent in Texas,” Rep. Rebecca Alexander said as she spoke to a House subcommittee. Alexander is the legislation’s sponsor.

      Virginia’s Republican Attorney General Jason Miyares is calling for Roe v. Wade to be overturned by the Supreme Court.

      In joining 21 other states in calling on the court to invalidate Mississippi’s 15-week abortion ban and reaffirm the ruling in Roe, Virginia joined 21 other states in urging the court to strike down Mississippi’s 15-week abortion ban.

      Miyares wrote the justices a letter stating, “The [new] Attorney General has reconsidered Virginia’s position in this case. Virginia is now of the view that the Constitution is silent on the question of abortion, and that it is therefore up to the people in the several states to determine the legal status and regulatory treatment of abortion.”

      According to Miyares, Virginia joins 19 Republican attorneys general and dozens of red-state governors in calling for states to regulate abortion laws.

      “It is Virginia’s position that the court’s decisions in Roe and Casey were wrongly decided,” he stated, referencing the 1992 case in Planned Parenthood v Casey, in which the ruling barred states from prohibiting abortions before there is viability. “This court should restore judicial neutrality to the abortion debate by permitting the people of the several states to resolve these questions for themselves.”

      Sen. Josh Hawley, a Republican from Missouri, argued last month that Roe v. Wade constitutes the greatest injustice of our lifetimes and that the Supreme Court should correct it.

      Hawley stated in an interview with Breitbart that after Day One of oral arguments, Roe v. Wade was “very much in play.”

      “It would mean the reaching of a landmark goal that I mean, frankly, I have to say just personally, that Roe is one of the reasons that the major reason that I went into politics, and I think that’s true for many, many other people. That’s one of the major reasons I was interested in the law. And this is the greatest injustice of our lifetimes.”

      “I just have to say that someone who believes that that row is one of the worst decisions ever handed down by the Supreme Court, I think it would be a monumental moral landmark and reverse a great injustice.”

      Mississippi legislation that would ban nearly all abortions after 15 weeks is currently being reviewed by the Supreme Court.

      In the hearing, Justice Clarence Thomas posed a question that should have alarmed pro-abortion liberals.

      ”Does a mother have a right to ingest drugs and harm a pre-viable baby? Can the state bring child neglect charges against the mother?“ he inquired.

      The lawyer for Jackson Women’s Health Organization, the organization that wants the law overturned, stated: “That’s not what this case is about, but a woman has a right to make choices about her body.”

      There is a chance that Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Brett Kavanaugh will decide the case.

      It is possible that Roberts and Kavanaugh seek a “middle ground” in which they don’t support reversing Roe v Wade in its entirety:

      Roberts suggested the court could look at Mississippi’s 15-week law as a new viability standard, rather than Roe and Casey, which is over 20 weeks. And Kavanaugh, meanwhile, has asked to confirm that Mississippi isn’t asking the court to outright prohibit abortion, a way to say it’s not overturning Roe while limiting access.

      Justice Brett Kavanaugh asked a question that seems aimed at the arguments made by abortion-rights advocates that a decision overturning Roe v. Wade would be a step towards the Supreme Court eventually issuing a decision that would outlaw abortion nationwide.

      Mississippi is arguing that the Constitution is silent or neutral on the abortion question. Kavanaugh asked Stewart to confirm, which he did.

      Kavanaugh suggested that a majority of states – or at least many states – would maintain abortion access.

      “The Constitution is neither pro-life nor pro-choice … and leaves the issue to the people to resolve in the democratic process,” Kavanaugh concluded.

      Democrats are awakening to a significant problem for their party: winning state legislatures in light of the Supreme Court’s imminent decision on the abortion case.

      The Republican Party holds both chambers of the state legislature and the governorship in 23 states, after more than a decade of heavy investment at the state level. Democratic control is only found in 14 of the states.

      Among the most overlooked concerns of Democratic politics has been the functioning of state legislatures, where Republicans take on culture war issues such as abortion, transgenderism, and teaching critical race theory in schools. Democrats who organize at the state level feel a new sense of urgency as Roe v. Wade, a 1973 Supreme Court decision that guaranteed abortion rights until fetal viability, or about 23 weeks, approaches its end.

      Of course, this comes at a time when the vast majority of Americans disapprove of Democrats in power and how they have run the country into the ground. As Republicans are set to sweep the midterm elections and retake at least the U.S. House, they may see their hold on state legislatures expand. Which would be a fantastic end to a crazy year.

      http://republicbrief.com/us-supreme-court-ready-to-lower-the-gavel-after-thomas-signals-support/

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      jon-nyc
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      @Jolly said in Abortion. Again.:

      “This bill is modeled directly after the legislation passed in Texas last year. Abortions, since that bill has been passed, have dropped 60 percent in Texas,” Rep. Rebecca Alexander said

      If you look at the increase in abortion pills ordered in Texas and the increase in abortions in neighboring states since the law went into effect, you'll discover the number is the same or perhaps even up a bit.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        Is that good or bad?

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          Murdering one's own baby legally gives a visceral freedom rush like no other.

          Education is extremely important.

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            And a lifetime of guilt and regret.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              Is that good or bad?

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              jon-nyc
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              @Jolly said in Abortion. Again.:

              Is that good or bad?

              It shows that the ability for states to stop abortions post-Roe/Casey has practical limitations. I think that’s fine.

              One of the tiny Venn intersections I occupy is pro-choice anti-Roe.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                Looks like California is trying to set up a gun law base on the model of the abortion law in Texas.

                Seems like they want the US Supreme Court to make a judgment on both.

                CA gun Law

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                  Jolly
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                  Doesn't work. Told you this before.

                  Gun ownership is a 2nd Amendment right.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    jon-nyc
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                    It will work in that it won’t get blocked pre-enforcement (if the court is at all consistent).

                    It’s just that once it is enforced it is likely to be struck down.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
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                      In other words, it won't work.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        Although I dont understand the full law proposal, they are not sewing gun owners, but the makers of the guns.

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