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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #6

    But you can get them on-line...

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      Notice the breakdown of education vs. voting patterns? Those with advanced degrees are usually voting for Dems.

      Why?

      AxtremusA Away
      AxtremusA Away
      Axtremus
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      #7

      @Jolly said in The Working Class Voter:

      Notice the breakdown of education vs. voting patterns? Those with advanced degrees are usually voting for Dems.

      Why?

      Perhaps this study by the University of Kansas gives a clue:

      https://news.ku.edu/2020/04/28/study-shows-vulnerable-populations-less-education-more-likely-believe-share

      “STUDY SHOWS VULNERABLE POPULATIONS WITH LESS EDUCATION MORE LIKELY TO BELIEVE, SHARE MISINFORMATION”

      HoraceH LuFins DadL CopperC 3 Replies Last reply
      • AxtremusA Axtremus

        @Jolly said in The Working Class Voter:

        Notice the breakdown of education vs. voting patterns? Those with advanced degrees are usually voting for Dems.

        Why?

        Perhaps this study by the University of Kansas gives a clue:

        https://news.ku.edu/2020/04/28/study-shows-vulnerable-populations-less-education-more-likely-believe-share

        “STUDY SHOWS VULNERABLE POPULATIONS WITH LESS EDUCATION MORE LIKELY TO BELIEVE, SHARE MISINFORMATION”

        HoraceH Offline
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        Horace
        wrote on last edited by
        #8

        @Axtremus said in The Working Class Voter:

        @Jolly said in The Working Class Voter:

        Notice the breakdown of education vs. voting patterns? Those with advanced degrees are usually voting for Dems.

        Why?

        Perhaps this study by the University of Kansas gives a clue:

        https://news.ku.edu/2020/04/28/study-shows-vulnerable-populations-less-education-more-likely-believe-share

        “STUDY SHOWS VULNERABLE POPULATIONS WITH LESS EDUCATION MORE LIKELY TO BELIEVE, SHARE MISINFORMATION”

        Those who participate in activities that are correlated with intelligence, are able to think more critically about information they receive, as compared to people who do not do things correlated with intelligence. Shocking. Equally shocking - high status educated types will dance around concepts such as measurable intelligence, but never, ever hit the idea on the nose, because it would do harm to their social status to admit the obvious regarding that.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • AxtremusA Axtremus

          @Jolly said in The Working Class Voter:

          Notice the breakdown of education vs. voting patterns? Those with advanced degrees are usually voting for Dems.

          Why?

          Perhaps this study by the University of Kansas gives a clue:

          https://news.ku.edu/2020/04/28/study-shows-vulnerable-populations-less-education-more-likely-believe-share

          “STUDY SHOWS VULNERABLE POPULATIONS WITH LESS EDUCATION MORE LIKELY TO BELIEVE, SHARE MISINFORMATION”

          LuFins DadL Offline
          LuFins DadL Offline
          LuFins Dad
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          #9

          @Axtremus said in The Working Class Voter:

          @Jolly said in The Working Class Voter:

          Notice the breakdown of education vs. voting patterns? Those with advanced degrees are usually voting for Dems.

          Why?

          Perhaps this study by the University of Kansas gives a clue:

          https://news.ku.edu/2020/04/28/study-shows-vulnerable-populations-less-education-more-likely-believe-share

          “STUDY SHOWS VULNERABLE POPULATIONS WITH LESS EDUCATION MORE LIKELY TO BELIEVE, SHARE MISINFORMATION”

          on 04/28/20 Wearing cloth masks was "proven" science. Questioning mask effectiveness was misinformation. Of course, a month earlier, saying masks were effective was considered misinformation. On 04/28/20, suggesting the virus may have come from a lab was misinformation. Today it's not. On 04/28/20, reporting that Fauci and the government had funded research that would have been considered Gain of Function (at that time) on VERY similar Coronavirus' at the Wuhan Institute was considered misinformation. On 04/28/20, suggesting that beloved Governor Andrew Cuomo was sending COVID positive patients back into nursing homes was misinformation. On 04/28/20 suggesting that the government unemployment benefits were going to lead to problems getting people to return to work was misinformation. Suggesting that dumping trillions of dollars into the system would lead to inflation was misinformation.

          Should we keep going?

          The Brad

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          • HoraceH Horace

            Wokeness is a luxury belief, and luxury beliefs will always be at tension with working class lifestyles.

            jon-nycJ Online
            jon-nycJ Online
            jon-nyc
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            @Horace said in The Working Class Voter:

            Wokeness is a luxury belief, and luxury beliefs will always be at tension with working class lifestyles.

            The coiner of the phrase "luxury beliefs" put it this way:

            Luxury beliefs are ideas and opinions that confer status on the upper class, while inflicting costs on the lower classes.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              @Axtremus said in The Working Class Voter:

              @Jolly said in The Working Class Voter:

              Notice the breakdown of education vs. voting patterns? Those with advanced degrees are usually voting for Dems.

              Why?

              Perhaps this study by the University of Kansas gives a clue:

              https://news.ku.edu/2020/04/28/study-shows-vulnerable-populations-less-education-more-likely-believe-share

              “STUDY SHOWS VULNERABLE POPULATIONS WITH LESS EDUCATION MORE LIKELY TO BELIEVE, SHARE MISINFORMATION”

              on 04/28/20 Wearing cloth masks was "proven" science. Questioning mask effectiveness was misinformation. Of course, a month earlier, saying masks were effective was considered misinformation. On 04/28/20, suggesting the virus may have come from a lab was misinformation. Today it's not. On 04/28/20, reporting that Fauci and the government had funded research that would have been considered Gain of Function (at that time) on VERY similar Coronavirus' at the Wuhan Institute was considered misinformation. On 04/28/20, suggesting that beloved Governor Andrew Cuomo was sending COVID positive patients back into nursing homes was misinformation. On 04/28/20 suggesting that the government unemployment benefits were going to lead to problems getting people to return to work was misinformation. Suggesting that dumping trillions of dollars into the system would lead to inflation was misinformation.

              Should we keep going?

              JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
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              #11

              @LuFins-Dad said in The Working Class Voter:

              @Axtremus said in The Working Class Voter:

              @Jolly said in The Working Class Voter:

              Notice the breakdown of education vs. voting patterns? Those with advanced degrees are usually voting for Dems.

              Why?

              Perhaps this study by the University of Kansas gives a clue:

              https://news.ku.edu/2020/04/28/study-shows-vulnerable-populations-less-education-more-likely-believe-share

              “STUDY SHOWS VULNERABLE POPULATIONS WITH LESS EDUCATION MORE LIKELY TO BELIEVE, SHARE MISINFORMATION”

              on 04/28/20 Wearing cloth masks was "proven" science. Questioning mask effectiveness was misinformation. Of course, a month earlier, saying masks were effective was considered misinformation. On 04/28/20, suggesting the virus may have come from a lab was misinformation. Today it's not. On 04/28/20, reporting that Fauci and the government had funded research that would have been considered Gain of Function (at that time) on VERY similar Coronavirus' at the Wuhan Institute was considered misinformation. On 04/28/20, suggesting that beloved Governor Andrew Cuomo was sending COVID positive patients back into nursing homes was misinformation. On 04/28/20 suggesting that the government unemployment benefits were going to lead to problems getting people to return to work was misinformation. Suggesting that dumping trillions of dollars into the system would lead to inflation was misinformation.

              Should we keep going?

              Well, some people are educated far beyond their intelligence.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                @Jolly said in The Working Class Voter:

                Notice the breakdown of education vs. voting patterns? Those with advanced degrees are usually voting for Dems.

                Why?

                Perhaps this study by the University of Kansas gives a clue:

                https://news.ku.edu/2020/04/28/study-shows-vulnerable-populations-less-education-more-likely-believe-share

                “STUDY SHOWS VULNERABLE POPULATIONS WITH LESS EDUCATION MORE LIKELY TO BELIEVE, SHARE MISINFORMATION”

                CopperC Offline
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                Copper
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                #12

                @Axtremus said in The Working Class Voter:

                MISINFORMATION”

                I believe the current lefty handbook discourages using the word Misinformation without using the word Disinformation.

                This two words should always be used together, and with a little rhythm please.

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                • taiwan_girlT Offline
                  taiwan_girlT Offline
                  taiwan_girl
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #13

                  QUOTE
                  In the 2020 election, Trump carried the overall working class (noncollege) vote by 4 points (Catalist two party vote), about the same margin he had in 2016.

                  And

                  since 2012, nonwhite working class voters have shifted away from the Democrats by 18 margin points, with a particularly sharp shift in the last election and particularly among Hispanics.
                  UNQUOTE

                  The above two quotes dont seem to match up. If the overall working class vote margin was the same from 2016 to 2020, how could so many non white working class people have shifted away from teh Democrats?

                  Anyways. I will take off my Ax hat and let you get back to your discussions. 555

                  LuFins DadL 1 Reply Last reply
                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                    QUOTE
                    In the 2020 election, Trump carried the overall working class (noncollege) vote by 4 points (Catalist two party vote), about the same margin he had in 2016.

                    And

                    since 2012, nonwhite working class voters have shifted away from the Democrats by 18 margin points, with a particularly sharp shift in the last election and particularly among Hispanics.
                    UNQUOTE

                    The above two quotes dont seem to match up. If the overall working class vote margin was the same from 2016 to 2020, how could so many non white working class people have shifted away from teh Democrats?

                    Anyways. I will take off my Ax hat and let you get back to your discussions. 555

                    LuFins DadL Offline
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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #14

                    @taiwan_girl the vastly increased number of voters and a very small dip in his percentage of white working class voters would account for it. So would a smaller number of working class voters.

                    The Brad

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      @Horace said in The Working Class Voter:

                      Wokeness is a luxury belief, and luxury beliefs will always be at tension with working class lifestyles.

                      The coiner of the phrase "luxury beliefs" put it this way:

                      Luxury beliefs are ideas and opinions that confer status on the upper class, while inflicting costs on the lower classes.

                      KlausK Offline
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                      Klaus
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #15

                      @jon-nyc said in The Working Class Voter:

                      @Horace said in The Working Class Voter:

                      Wokeness is a luxury belief, and luxury beliefs will always be at tension with working class lifestyles.

                      The coiner of the phrase "luxury beliefs" put it this way:

                      Luxury beliefs are ideas and opinions that confer status on the upper class, while inflicting costs on the lower classes.

                      I think Maslov's hierarchy of needs explains it all.

                      What's better than having stuff? Status, and the feeling of moral superiority.

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