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The Ukraine war thread

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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    wrote last edited by Renauda
    #3101

    He might want to stay away from windows above the ground floor. Likewise don’t drink tea offered from strangers.

    In any event, he should pack underwear and a toothbrush. He may soon visit the village of Harp.

    Elbows up!

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      #3102

      I find this hard to understand. The US is pressuring Ukraine to give up territory that Russia can’t seem to win militarily. Trump already stopped funding Ukraine, so what’s in it for them? Isn’t it just a straight-up win for Ukraine if the US walks away from ‘peace talks’ to focus on Iran, the (former) supplier of Russian drones?

      Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        I find this hard to understand. The US is pressuring Ukraine to give up territory that Russia can’t seem to win militarily. Trump already stopped funding Ukraine, so what’s in it for them? Isn’t it just a straight-up win for Ukraine if the US walks away from ‘peace talks’ to focus on Iran, the (former) supplier of Russian drones?

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        @jon-nyc said:

        I find this hard to understand. The US is pressuring Ukraine to give up territory that Russia can’t seem to win militarily.

        Because Putin demands it and has disingenuously convinced Washington that to achieve an armistice, at bare minimum the US to must force Ukraine to concede all claims to the territory. It is, of course, a total deception as he fully plans to eventually take all that has been been annexed but not held or occupied. This just offers a temporary respite in the war to make Trump feel good about himself and the 30 pieces of silver from Putin in his pocket.

        Elbows up!

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          I mean does anyone think we have any leverage over Ukraine to accept this? To coin a phrase, Trump doesn't have any cards.

          Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            I mean does anyone think we have any leverage over Ukraine to accept this? To coin a phrase, Trump doesn't have any cards.

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            wrote last edited by Renauda
            #3105

            @jon-nyc

            Up until this latest chaos in Middle East started I would say no the US does not hold the leverage it did a a year ago. Between Trump’s bluster and Wikoff’s incompetence the US has lost a lot of its previous leverage.

            From here on though and owing to the global economic fallout from the current crisis occupying Washington, there is no telling whether the initiative will pass to the Kremlin.

            Elbows up!

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