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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
    wrote on last edited by
    #929

    There's been a fair amount of reporting of Russian casualties - KIA, wounded and others.

    I haven't seen much about Ukrainian losses lately. Last time I saw anything, there was supposedly a 1:3 ratio between the two forces.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
      wrote on last edited by
      #930

      Putin speaks (live):

      Link to video

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
        wrote on last edited by
        #931

        Wonder what was able to be salvaged from all the abandoned or disabled Russian stuff?

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
          wrote on last edited by
          #932

          Ah, the John Deere Brigade...

          https://news.yahoo.com/ukrainians-soldiers-are-refurbishing-abandoned-russian-tanks-and-trucks-191724346.html

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • RenaudaR Renauda

            Putin always chooses escalation:

            https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/09/29/putin-always-chooses-escalation-a78923

            MikM Offline
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            Mik
            wrote on last edited by
            #933

            @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

            Putin always chooses escalation:

            https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/09/29/putin-always-chooses-escalation-a78923

            He's just a little guy.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • George KG George K

              Putin speaks (live):

              Link to video

              RenaudaR Offline
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              Renauda
              wrote on last edited by
              #934

              @George-K

              Parsing the vitriol:

              https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/putin-denounces-imperialism-while-annexing-large-swathes-of-ukraine/?mkt_tok=NjU5LVdaWC0wNzUAAAGHLohcyGbb_OlzJ7jTbk4Q9bTLv8zBRNtGKkP2KEDbkjWONS8hTranaaDZE477RNM5L69010ElevhMLwl9tRlVMbq2o6enAfb0FPJdpMDj7w

              Elbows up!

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              • RainmanR Offline
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                Rainman
                wrote on last edited by
                #935

                Nice, short, scary article. Thanks for posting that, Renauda.

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #936

                  Putin: takes Ukrainian territory, wants to claim attacks in annexed regions are attacks on Russia

                  Zelensky: applies to join NATO, wants to claim attacks on Ukraine would trigger article 5

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG George K

                    Putin: takes Ukrainian territory, wants to claim attacks in annexed regions are attacks on Russia

                    Zelensky: applies to join NATO, wants to claim attacks on Ukraine would trigger article 5

                    RenaudaR Offline
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                    Renauda
                    wrote on last edited by Renauda
                    #937

                    @George-K

                    Even funnier- Putin is yet still to figure it out that Russia is very much the junior partner to China in the New Cold War with the West.

                    Elbows up!

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #938

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • bachophileB Offline
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                        bachophile
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #939

                        damn, the city of Lyman was able to be Russian for just one day....

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                        • bachophileB bachophile

                          damn, the city of Lyman was able to be Russian for just one day....

                          George KG Offline
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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #940

                          @bachophile said in The Ukraine war thread:

                          damn, the city of Lyman was able to be Russian for just one day....

                          "Vladimir Putin is the only leader to annex territory while his troops are retreating."

                          Supposedly the Russian troops in Lyman want to withdraw, because they're surrounded, but the word from the top is "Nyet." There's 5000 of them.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • JollyJ Offline
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                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #941

                            There'll be less. Give it time.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • George KG Offline
                              George KG Offline
                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #942

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                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • George KG George K

                                @bachophile said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                damn, the city of Lyman was able to be Russian for just one day....

                                "Vladimir Putin is the only leader to annex territory while his troops are retreating."

                                Supposedly the Russian troops in Lyman want to withdraw, because they're surrounded, but the word from the top is "Nyet." There's 5000 of them.

                                MikM Offline
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                                Mik
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #943

                                @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                @bachophile said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                damn, the city of Lyman was able to be Russian for just one day....

                                "Vladimir Putin is the only leader to annex territory while his troops are retreating."

                                Supposedly the Russian troops in Lyman want to withdraw, because they're surrounded, but the word from the top is "Nyet." There's 5000 of them.

                                Might be 5,000 new Ukrainian soldiers soon.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • RenaudaR Offline
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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #944

                                  Putin’s fantasy doesn’t fit the reality:

                                  https://samf.substack.com/p/putins-annexation-and-lymans-encirclement?r=17wfy3&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

                                  Elbows up!

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                                  • bachophileB Offline
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                                    bachophile
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #945

                                    That’s the danger when your army can’t fulfill your ideological goals. First rule of being a dictator. Only threaten what you can achieve.

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                                    • George KG Offline
                                      George KG Offline
                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by George K
                                      #946

                                      https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-10-01-22#h_d51cb295294b53ca8004e88aaefa385f

                                      Russian troops have withdrawn from the town of Lyman in eastern Ukraine to avoid being surrounded by Ukraine’s army, the Russian Ministry of Defense said Saturday.

                                      “In connection with the creation of a threat of encirclement, allied troops were withdrawn from the settlement of Krasny Liman to more advantageous lines,” the defense ministry said on social media platform Telegram.

                                      The Russian name for the town of Lyman is Krasny Liman.

                                      Russia state media reported that the reason for the withdrawal was due to Western-made artillery and intelligence..

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • George KG Offline
                                        George KG Offline
                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #947

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                                        The last sentence: "Russia is expending strategically valuable militaryassets in attempts to achieve tactical advantage and in the process is killing civilians it now claims are its own citizens."

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • George KG Offline
                                          George KG Offline
                                          George K
                                          wrote on last edited by George K
                                          #948

                                          Sevastopol International Airport

                                          Soviet military airfield[edit]

                                          The airfield was first constructed by the Soviet Union in June 1941, during the third year of World War II. Initially it housed a military fighter aviation unit. Constructed without a hardened runway, after the war the airfield received a concrete runway, but remained exclusively in use by the military. During the second half of the 1980s, after Mikhail Gorbachev came to power, the airfield was significantly increased and improved, as the airfield was to be used by him when travelling to the presidential dacha on the southern coast of the Crimea, near the cape of Foros. Subsequently, it was also allowed to use the airfield for civilian purposes.[1]

                                          The original name of the airport comes from the Belbek river, in the south-west of Crimea. The airfield is located next to the coast, in the Nakhimovsky area of Sevastopol, north of the city center, close to the adjacent neighborhood Lyubimovka.

                                          2002–2007: International airport

                                          After July 2002, the airfield began to be used for civil aviation. In December 2002, the airport received a license for international flights. Between 2002 and 2007 over 2,500 flights were carried out, which transported about 25,000 passengers.

                                          During 2007, civil flights were suspended again. However, during spring 2009 it was announced that resumption of air links was to commence in the near future. To date, the civil service has not started yet.

                                          Military use of airport continued[clarification needed] throughout this period, being also a military fighter airbase. During 1996, the Su-15TM's were replaced by the Su-27, and until 2014 the 204th Tactical Aviation Brigade flying the MiG-29 was based there.

                                          Russian military presence

                                          On 28 February 2014, Ukraine's acting Interior Minister Arsen Avakov claimed that the airport was blocked by Russian Military personnel, and unidentified armed men are patrolling the area. He said through his Twitter account that, "I can only describe this as a military invasion and occupation". The Russian Foreign Ministry refused to comment while a spokesman for the Russian defense ministry was not available for comment.

                                          11 March 2014, a new website was established[4] by the military personnel to report directly, of current and former events in the airfield. According to the website data, there had been a fire in the airport on the military area (воинская часть, Military Unit Number, А-4515) where electrical equipment was stored, with some unknown soldiers guarding it.[4]

                                          14 March 2014, Colonel Yuliy Mamchur made an appeal on YouTube, addressed to the Ukraine government, telling it should give letter orders to all the Ukrainian troops on the Crimean peninsula. In case he would not receive the orders, he claimed that the 204th tactical brigade was going to fight, even if they could not withstand the adversary.

                                          The 204th tactical brigade had been deployed in Belbek since December 2007 in the military area number A4515 (воинская часть A-4515).[6]

                                          After the 2014, a 38th fighter regiment of the 27th Mixed Aviation Division, flying Su-27s and Su-30s, was established at Belbek.

                                          On 1 Oct 2022, series of explosions were heard

                                          More here: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/19977183/blast-rocks-russian-airbase-crimea-tourist-explosion/

                                          The cause of the explosion, which sent sparks and plumes of smoke into the air, is currently unknown.

                                          But according to the Russian-appointed head of occupied Sevastopol, the explosion was caused when on board munitions detonated on a military aircraft that overshot the runway at Belbek airport.

                                          There were no immediate reports of missile strikes on the plane or airport by Ukraine...

                                          “According to information from rescuers, during landing the plane skidded off the runway and caught fire.

                                          “The fire brigade is currently on the scene. Please remain calm.”

                                          Smoke from the inferno plane was visible from different areas of the city which is the headquarters of the Russian Black Sea Fleet.

                                          Crimea has been targeted previously by Ukrainian special forces hit squads, according to reports.

                                          The governor said later: "The aircraft went beyond the runway during landing, and there was a partial explosion of ammunition.

                                          " The pilot managed to evacuate.

                                          "The fire was quickly extinguished and the airfield was not damaged."

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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