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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
    wrote on last edited by
    #737

    Worth reading:

    https://samf.substack.com/p/constantly-operating-factors

    Elbows up!

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    • MikM Offline
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      wrote on last edited by
      #738

      Great article. History repeats itself.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
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        #739

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG George K

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          Horace
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          #740

          @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

          I'm reserving judgment until we have more information.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • Catseye3C Catseye3

            From the Institute for the Study of War's Aug 26 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

            "Russian forces did not make any claimed or assessed territorial gains in Ukraine on August 26, 2022, for the first time since August 18, 2022. However, Russian forces still conducted limited and unsuccessful ground attacks on the Eastern Axis on August 26.

            "The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) stated that unspecified actors (but almost certainly Russian forces) reconnected part of the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP) to the Ukrainian power grid on August 26."

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            wrote on last edited by
            #741

            @Catseye3 said in The Ukraine war thread:

            From the Institute for the Study of War's Aug 28 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

            "Russian President Vladimir Putin signed two decrees on August 27 in a reported effort to assist stateless peoples and residents of Donbas and Ukraine live and work in the Russian Federation. The first decree allows Donbas residents, Ukrainians, and stateless peoples to live and work in Russia indefinitely. The decree also allows Ukrainian and Donbas residents to work in Russia without a permit so long as they have acquired an identification card within 30 days of the August 27 decree.

            "The second decree orders Russian social services to provide social payments to individuals forced to leave Ukraine and the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republic (DNR and LNR) for Russia after February 18, 2022."

            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
              wrote on last edited by
              #742

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
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                #743

                Lots of updates here. Looks like there's some serious stuff going on.

                https://euromaidanpress.com/2022/08/29/ukrainian-troops-launched-counteroffensive-in-kherson-oblast-media/

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • Catseye3C Offline
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #744

                  Not sure this will help, but here's a bit clearer map of where the Dnipro River is:

                  00991a7e-4336-48e5-8d20-88d98cd43a5d-image.png

                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                  • Catseye3C Offline
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                    #745

                    And in case you're wondering, Dnipro is pronounced NEE-pro, more or less. The Slavik (?) guy explaining the pronunciation says that you can "almost ignore the D although it is there."

                    You know, in case you are gripped with a compulsion to rush over there and help, and need to ask directions to the NEE-pro River.

                    Be careful who you ask, though.

                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #746

                      I'm sorry, we don't serve Dnipros.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • MikM Mik

                        I'm sorry, we don't serve Dnipros.

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                        #747

                        @Mik That’s Dracist.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • Catseye3C Offline
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                          Catseye3
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                          #748

                          0c7377ed-d53e-4218-9412-3d68ae50d922-image.png

                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                          • George KG Offline
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                            George K
                            wrote on last edited by George K
                            #749

                            image.jpeg

                            Someone commented, "You know the war is going badly when leadership sidelines the people in charge and takes direct command."

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              @Mik That’s Dracist.

                              MikM Offline
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                              Mik
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #750

                              @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                              @Mik That’s Dracist.

                              What? Ukrainian is not a race.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                From the Institute for the Study of War's Aug 26 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

                                "Russian forces did not make any claimed or assessed territorial gains in Ukraine on August 26, 2022, for the first time since August 18, 2022. However, Russian forces still conducted limited and unsuccessful ground attacks on the Eastern Axis on August 26.

                                "The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) stated that unspecified actors (but almost certainly Russian forces) reconnected part of the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP) to the Ukrainian power grid on August 26."

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                                #751

                                From the Institute for the Study of War's Aug 30 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

                                "Ukrainian forces began striking Russian pontoon ferries across the Dnipro River on August 29, which is consistent with the start of the Ukrainian counteroffensive. The effects of destroying ferries will likely be more ephemeral than those of putting bridges out of commission, so attacking them makes sense in conjunction with active ground operations. Ukrainian military officials confirmed that Ukrainian forces destroyed a Russian pontoon-ferry crossing in Lvove, approximately 16km west of Nova Kakhovka on the right bank of the Dnipro River on August 29. Ukrainian and Russian sources have also reported that Ukrainian forces struck a pontoon crossing constructed out of barges near the Antonivsky Road Bridge."

                                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                • MikM Offline
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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #752

                                  An army without supplies is just a campout.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • MikM Mik

                                    An army without supplies is just a campout.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #753

                                    @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                    An army without supplies is just a limited-duration campout.

                                    There.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • George KG George K

                                      @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                      An army without supplies is just a limited-duration campout.

                                      There.

                                      RenaudaR Offline
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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #754

                                      @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                      @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                      An army without supplies is just a limited-duration campout.

                                      There.

                                      I would suggest that it is a camped out mob spiralling into anarchy.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                      • George KG Offline
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                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #755

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • George KG George K

                                          RenaudaR Offline
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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #756

                                          @George-K

                                          Voronezh is a good place for the mudak.

                                          Elbows up!

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