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  • KlausK Klaus

    @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

    Also a big deal is that the Ukranians have not destroyed all the bridges, but have rendered them unusable for tanks, armored vehicles and heavy trucks.

    How do you make a bridge unusable but not destroy it?

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    Jolly
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    @Klaus said in The Ukraine war thread:

    @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

    Also a big deal is that the Ukranians have not destroyed all the bridges, but have rendered them unusable for tanks, armored vehicles and heavy trucks.

    How do you make a bridge unusable but not destroy it?

    Crater it, punch holes in it, weaken the structure but don't drop it. Think the Ludendorff Bridge in WW2.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      George K
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      Bombs away - from a drone.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        George K
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        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-video-russian-troops-appear-to-castrate-ukrainian-war-prisoner/

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            jon-nyc
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            Jesus.

            You were warned.

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            • MikM Away
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              Mik
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              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • MikM Away
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                Mik
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                #662

                Take the winning shot, says this military guy. Unfortunately, short of putting US Navy ships in a position to be challenged by the Russian navy, he doesn't say much about how to do this.

                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/mr-president-take-the-winning-shot-in-ukraine-already/ar-AA10g9qA?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=6384930363a54086896191a20b067426

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • MikM Away
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                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-ukrainian-army-just-blew-up-a-russian-ammo-train-the-fourth-of-the-war/ar-AA10ij5C?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=e9119916949c40f3b3c94f310c497d2e

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Mik

                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-ukrainian-army-just-blew-up-a-russian-ammo-train-the-fourth-of-the-war/ar-AA10ij5C?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=e9119916949c40f3b3c94f310c497d2e

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                    Renauda
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                    @Mik

                    It is imperative that Ukraine retake and hold Kherson. It will cut off the Russians from taking Odesa and denying the Ukrainians access to the Black Sea. It will also be a political victory since the region is primarily Russian speaking.

                    Elbows up!

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                      jon-nyc
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                      You were warned.

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                        Renauda
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                        #666

                        Last week Amnesty International published a report that sparked outrage from Kyiv over Ukrainian troops using civilians and civilian infrastructure as shields and military base points to fight the Russians. Here is a summary of the report and and reaction:

                        https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/07/amnesty-international-ukraine-military-report-civilians

                        Yesterday, one of my Ukrainian diaspora associates emailed to me this rebuttal to the AI report. I know it’s a blog but it is nevertheless, well presented. If nothing else it shows what the Ukrainian defenders are up against in defending their country from the Russian invaders:

                        https://thinpinstripedline.blogspot.com/2022/08/we-sleep-safely-in-our-beds-because.html?m=1

                        Elbows up!

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                          Renauda
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                          Amusing Russian disinformation although I am sure AI would buy it:

                          Elbows up!

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                          • MikM Away
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                            Mik
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                            A hit on a Crimean air base.

                            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-ukrainians-blew-up-a-russian-air-base-120-miles-from-the-front/ar-AA10uAlA?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=bcf1214e6e7f476caad8c7aebd12a5b8

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • MikM Mik

                              A hit on a Crimean air base.

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-ukrainians-blew-up-a-russian-air-base-120-miles-from-the-front/ar-AA10uAlA?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=bcf1214e6e7f476caad8c7aebd12a5b8

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                              @Mik

                              Been following this since yesterday. There are some indications, albeit unconfirmed, that this may have been Ukrainian partisan action. Given the apparent extent of the attack I have my doubts although the Russian reaction downplaying the results of the attack lend some credence to the partisan claim. If true I wonder if Crimean Tatars were also involved?

                              Elbows up!

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                              • RenaudaR Renauda

                                @Mik

                                Been following this since yesterday. There are some indications, albeit unconfirmed, that this may have been Ukrainian partisan action. Given the apparent extent of the attack I have my doubts although the Russian reaction downplaying the results of the attack lend some credence to the partisan claim. If true I wonder if Crimean Tatars were also involved?

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                                George K
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                                @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                There are some indications, albeit unconfirmed, that this may have been Ukrainian partisan action

                                I've read that as well. However, others have questioned it, because of the three, almost simultaneous explosions/strikes.

                                It might be more complicated than "partisans."

                                Also, I've read that these bases were a major staging ground for the Russian offensive in the Donbas and other regions. If that's the case, well, perhaps the Russians might have sustained a major blow.

                                On another note, the British Ministry of Defence is saying that "recruitment" into the Russian army is reaching higher, perhaps more desperate levels. Russia is opening recruitment to men under the age of 50, and there's no need for graduation from a middle school education. Some sources have claimed 80K casualties (KIA and wounded). If that's the case, then, Putin's entry into Ukraine really re-defines "meat grinder."

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  George K
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                                  #671

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    LuFins Dad
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                                    That's as huge as any of the Generals killed...

                                    Social Media Intelligence Gathering... We are in a new world...

                                    The Brad

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                                    • MikM Away
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                                      Mik
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                                      May they all rot in hell.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        Good hunting, boys.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          Putin's 'panic-stricken' officials in secret bid to end bloody war

                                          A highly placed Kremlin official has secretly approached the West to help end the Ukraine invasion, it was claimed last night.

                                          The secret member of Vladimir Putin ’s elite is said to have revealed the Kremlin is in panic and desperate for the bloody war to end.

                                          Astonishing claims about the move were made in a report circulated to Western intelligence agencies.

                                          It is believed senior officers and officials close to Putin are alarmed by biting Western sanctions and the failing economy caused by war.

                                          Some Kremlin figures are also concerned about the increasingly alarming risks being taken such as fighting at the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant in Ukraine.

                                          The approach is likely to have been made to CIA contacts or Western diplomats, behind Putin’s back.

                                          The mood in the Kremlin is said to be 'panic' as continuing sanctions invoke fear for Russia's future .

                                          The Daily Mirror understands the leaked “situation report” is being taken seriously by intelligence agencies.

                                          The document says: “A representative of Putin’s inner-circle sent a signal to the West about the desire to negotiate. The mood of the Kremlin elite is panic.”

                                          The amazing claims goes on to label the unnamed Kremlin insider as “one of the pillars of the regime”.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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