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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
    wrote on last edited by
    #651

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    I believe it's the HIMARS that gave Ukraine this ability to target the bridges.

    The bridges are a big deal. Their destruction will make the Russians rely on long, and vulnerable supply lines - remember how that worked out in the North?

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      #652

      Also a big deal is that the Ukranians have not destroyed all the bridges, but have rendered them unusable for tanks, armored vehicles and heavy trucks.

      Unusable also means fixable, when people aren't shooting at you.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        Also a big deal is that the Ukranians have not destroyed all the bridges, but have rendered them unusable for tanks, armored vehicles and heavy trucks.

        Unusable also means fixable, when people aren't shooting at you.

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        Klaus
        wrote on last edited by
        #653

        @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

        Also a big deal is that the Ukranians have not destroyed all the bridges, but have rendered them unusable for tanks, armored vehicles and heavy trucks.

        How do you make a bridge unusable but not destroy it?

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        • KlausK Klaus

          @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

          Also a big deal is that the Ukranians have not destroyed all the bridges, but have rendered them unusable for tanks, armored vehicles and heavy trucks.

          How do you make a bridge unusable but not destroy it?

          George KG Offline
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          George K
          wrote on last edited by George K
          #654

          @Klaus by preventing heavy equipment from crossing it.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG Offline
            George KG Offline
            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #655

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • KlausK Klaus

              @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

              Also a big deal is that the Ukranians have not destroyed all the bridges, but have rendered them unusable for tanks, armored vehicles and heavy trucks.

              How do you make a bridge unusable but not destroy it?

              JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #656

              @Klaus said in The Ukraine war thread:

              @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

              Also a big deal is that the Ukranians have not destroyed all the bridges, but have rendered them unusable for tanks, armored vehicles and heavy trucks.

              How do you make a bridge unusable but not destroy it?

              Crater it, punch holes in it, weaken the structure but don't drop it. Think the Ludendorff Bridge in WW2.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #657

                Bombs away - from a drone.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #658

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #659

                    https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-video-russian-troops-appear-to-castrate-ukrainian-war-prisoner/

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #660

                      Jesus.

                      You were warned.

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                      • MikM Away
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                        Mik
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                        #661

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                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • MikM Away
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                          Mik
                          wrote on last edited by Mik
                          #662

                          Take the winning shot, says this military guy. Unfortunately, short of putting US Navy ships in a position to be challenged by the Russian navy, he doesn't say much about how to do this.

                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/mr-president-take-the-winning-shot-in-ukraine-already/ar-AA10g9qA?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=6384930363a54086896191a20b067426

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • MikM Away
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                            Mik
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #663

                            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-ukrainian-army-just-blew-up-a-russian-ammo-train-the-fourth-of-the-war/ar-AA10ij5C?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=e9119916949c40f3b3c94f310c497d2e

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • MikM Mik

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-ukrainian-army-just-blew-up-a-russian-ammo-train-the-fourth-of-the-war/ar-AA10ij5C?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=e9119916949c40f3b3c94f310c497d2e

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                              Renauda
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #664

                              @Mik

                              It is imperative that Ukraine retake and hold Kherson. It will cut off the Russians from taking Odesa and denying the Ukrainians access to the Black Sea. It will also be a political victory since the region is primarily Russian speaking.

                              Elbows up!

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                              • jon-nycJ Online
                                jon-nycJ Online
                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #665

                                You were warned.

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                                • RenaudaR Offline
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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                  #666

                                  Last week Amnesty International published a report that sparked outrage from Kyiv over Ukrainian troops using civilians and civilian infrastructure as shields and military base points to fight the Russians. Here is a summary of the report and and reaction:

                                  https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/07/amnesty-international-ukraine-military-report-civilians

                                  Yesterday, one of my Ukrainian diaspora associates emailed to me this rebuttal to the AI report. I know it’s a blog but it is nevertheless, well presented. If nothing else it shows what the Ukrainian defenders are up against in defending their country from the Russian invaders:

                                  https://thinpinstripedline.blogspot.com/2022/08/we-sleep-safely-in-our-beds-because.html?m=1

                                  Elbows up!

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                                  • RenaudaR Offline
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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #667

                                    Amusing Russian disinformation although I am sure AI would buy it:

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • MikM Away
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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #668

                                      A hit on a Crimean air base.

                                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-ukrainians-blew-up-a-russian-air-base-120-miles-from-the-front/ar-AA10uAlA?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=bcf1214e6e7f476caad8c7aebd12a5b8

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • MikM Mik

                                        A hit on a Crimean air base.

                                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-ukrainians-blew-up-a-russian-air-base-120-miles-from-the-front/ar-AA10uAlA?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=bcf1214e6e7f476caad8c7aebd12a5b8

                                        RenaudaR Offline
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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #669

                                        @Mik

                                        Been following this since yesterday. There are some indications, albeit unconfirmed, that this may have been Ukrainian partisan action. Given the apparent extent of the attack I have my doubts although the Russian reaction downplaying the results of the attack lend some credence to the partisan claim. If true I wonder if Crimean Tatars were also involved?

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • RenaudaR Renauda

                                          @Mik

                                          Been following this since yesterday. There are some indications, albeit unconfirmed, that this may have been Ukrainian partisan action. Given the apparent extent of the attack I have my doubts although the Russian reaction downplaying the results of the attack lend some credence to the partisan claim. If true I wonder if Crimean Tatars were also involved?

                                          George KG Offline
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                                          George K
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #670

                                          @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                          There are some indications, albeit unconfirmed, that this may have been Ukrainian partisan action

                                          I've read that as well. However, others have questioned it, because of the three, almost simultaneous explosions/strikes.

                                          It might be more complicated than "partisans."

                                          Also, I've read that these bases were a major staging ground for the Russian offensive in the Donbas and other regions. If that's the case, well, perhaps the Russians might have sustained a major blow.

                                          On another note, the British Ministry of Defence is saying that "recruitment" into the Russian army is reaching higher, perhaps more desperate levels. Russia is opening recruitment to men under the age of 50, and there's no need for graduation from a middle school education. Some sources have claimed 80K casualties (KIA and wounded). If that's the case, then, Putin's entry into Ukraine really re-defines "meat grinder."

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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