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The Ukraine war thread

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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #3110

    Renauda, care to comment on this? I really don't know the player in enough depth to say.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-s-real-fear-isn-t-nato-it-s-demobilization-opinion/ar-AA21nRW6

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    • MikM Mik

      Renauda, care to comment on this? I really don't know the player in enough depth to say.

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-s-real-fear-isn-t-nato-it-s-demobilization-opinion/ar-AA21nRW6

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      #3111

      @Mik

      I don’t believe he is wrong in his assessment. The Kremlin’s fear is Western liberal democracy and an open pluralistic society far, far more than Nato itself. In fact the Putin and his cronies know perfectly well, that Nato is a purely defensive military alliance.

      Western liberalism however is a threat to the very concept of autocracy that Putin has being rebuilding the past 26 years. If the society were to liberalize he and his cronies along with all the Tsar’s oligarchs would held to account by the Russian people. That would unleash the undercurrent of anarchy that is ever present within the Russian political and social culture. Lenin unleashed it in October 1917 and spent the rest of his life trying to rein it back. Only the brute force of Stalin quelled it in the 1930s. Gorbachev unwittingly let the genie out of the bottle by introducing glasnost which, in turn, led to the impoverishment of the country the end of the USSR and a decade of semi anarchy under Yeltsin.

      My only quibble with the author is how he interprets Putin’s desire for control over Ukraine. While Putin does fear Ukraine becoming a Western liberal state for the reasons stated above, I truly believe that he believes his own mythology that Ukraine and Ukrainians are merely a construct of Western minds, and do not exist beyond speaking what he (and many Russians) consider a quaint country bumpkin dialect of modern Russian.

      Elbows up!

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        #3112

        @renauda good post. So many smart people here on this forum board!!!!!😍

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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          #3113

          I wonder if General Smith will get punished for this.

          There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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            Putin’s cockholster in the White House would likely veto it but good to see all the same.

            There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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              There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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                I thought this video to be an excellent and realistic analysis of the current state of war in Ukraine:

                https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-takes-aim-at-st-petersburg-putins-hometown/video-77444434

                Elbows up!

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  I wonder if General Smith will get punished for this.

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                  @jon-nyc said:

                  I wonder if General Smith will get punished for this.

                  "Curb stomping". Man. That is some imagery for those of us who've seen American History X. I think that movie is the reason "curb stomping" is even in the pop culture vocabulary.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    I wonder if General Smith will get punished for this.

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                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                      Awwww.

                      There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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                        On the bright side he gets one last departing gift from Tulsi. Of course even a cursory read of the documents she ‘released’ disprove what she’s saying, but she knows no one will bother.

                        There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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                          Even Laura Loomer called her on it.

                          There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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