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  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

    Four years ago today. 😞

    RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
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    #3098

    @taiwan_girl

    Arthur Dron is a 22-year-old graduate student of journalism at Ivan Franko National University of Lviv. In 2020, Dron published his first collection of poetry, Dormitory №6, which has been translated into Lithuanian, English, Polish, Italian, and Belarusian. However, now, instead of visiting lectures and receiving awards for his work, he is protecting Ukraine on the battlefield and writing poems about the experience of war. Despite the gentle quietness of his poems, Dron’s voice is loud in the sphere of modern Ukrainian poetry both in Ukraine and abroad.

    First Letter to the Corinthians

    Love is patient. Love is kind.
    It is not jealous, is not pompous.
    Love is terrified like a beast
    but it perseveres.

    Love could give up and abandon it all
    but it perseveres
    Sometimes, love has gunshot wounds to
    its legs or bullet fragments lodged in
    them.

    Tourniquets squeeze love’s legs,
    or it has no legs anymore.
    Then love’s friends carry love.

    Love digs trenches and lives in them.
    It gnaws ice from the bottle cut in half
    when it gets thirsty at negative four.
    Love takes up combat duty,
    gets into position
    with hernias, fevers, prostatitis,
    with blast injuries,
    asthmas and allergies,
    with a high probability
    of not making it back,
    with thoughts about
    the most significant one.
    It bears all things, believes all things,
    hopes all things, endures all things!

    Love can distinguish by ear
    the shots of rocket launchers,
    the strikes of mortar shells, and
    the movement of tanks.
    Love’s eyes hurt when it stares into the
    thermal imager for too long.
    Love wakes up at night
    when the mice in the dugout crawl
    under its field coat.
    Sometimes, love vomits long in the
    trees after heavy combat.
    Every now and then, it closes the eyes of
    its friends.
    Love wraps them up in sleeping bags
    and carries them away.

    Love never fails!
    But where there are prophecies, they
    will cease;
    where there are tongues, they will
    be stilled;
    where there is knowledge, it will pass
    away.
    For sometimes, the shelling is over,
    and friends close Love’s eyes,
    wrap it up in a sleeping bag,
    and carry it away.

    And then it passes to the living.

    Background and analysis:

    https://nanovic.nd.edu/features/the-first-letter-to-the-corinthians/

    Elbows up!

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    • RenaudaR Offline
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      Renauda
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      #3099

      An excellent interview with Fiona Hill from yesterdays Global Story on BBC World Service:

      https://www.bbc.com/audio/play/w3ct71b2

      Elbows up!

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      • W Do not disturb
        W Do not disturb
        Wim
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        #3100

        A dissenting voice on Russian television

        https://www.kyivpost.com/opinion/72179

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        • RenaudaR Offline
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          Renauda
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          #3101

          He might want to stay away from windows above the ground floor. Likewise don’t drink tea offered from strangers.

          In any event, he should pack underwear and a toothbrush. He may soon visit the village of Harp.

          Elbows up!

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            jon-nyc
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            #3102

            I find this hard to understand. The US is pressuring Ukraine to give up territory that Russia can’t seem to win militarily. Trump already stopped funding Ukraine, so what’s in it for them? Isn’t it just a straight-up win for Ukraine if the US walks away from ‘peace talks’ to focus on Iran, the (former) supplier of Russian drones?

            Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              I find this hard to understand. The US is pressuring Ukraine to give up territory that Russia can’t seem to win militarily. Trump already stopped funding Ukraine, so what’s in it for them? Isn’t it just a straight-up win for Ukraine if the US walks away from ‘peace talks’ to focus on Iran, the (former) supplier of Russian drones?

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              @jon-nyc said:

              I find this hard to understand. The US is pressuring Ukraine to give up territory that Russia can’t seem to win militarily.

              Because Putin demands it and has disingenuously convinced Washington that to achieve an armistice, at bare minimum the US to must force Ukraine to concede all claims to the territory. It is, of course, a total deception as he fully plans to eventually take all that has been been annexed but not held or occupied. This just offers a temporary respite in the war to make Trump feel good about himself and the 30 pieces of silver from Putin in his pocket.

              Elbows up!

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                #3104

                I mean does anyone think we have any leverage over Ukraine to accept this? To coin a phrase, Trump doesn't have any cards.

                Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  I mean does anyone think we have any leverage over Ukraine to accept this? To coin a phrase, Trump doesn't have any cards.

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                  Renauda
                  wrote last edited by Renauda
                  #3105

                  @jon-nyc

                  Up until this latest chaos in Middle East started I would say no the US does not hold the leverage it did a a year ago. Between Trump’s bluster and Wikoff’s incompetence the US has lost a lot of its previous leverage.

                  From here on though and owing to the global economic fallout from the current crisis occupying Washington, there is no telling whether the initiative will pass to the Kremlin.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • W Do not disturb
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                    Wim
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                    #3106

                    Petraeus on Ukraine and Russia:

                    https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5818227-david-petraeus-ukraine-russia-war/

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                    • W Do not disturb
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                      #3107

                      Online censorship in Russia

                      https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2026/04/08/im-in-russia-by-blocking-telegram-the-kremlin-is-shooting-itself-in-the-foot-a92457

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                      • W Do not disturb
                        W Do not disturb
                        Wim
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                        #3108

                        American (?) pro-Kremlin commentator flees Russia

                        https://uawire.org/pro-kremlin-commentator-flees-russia-after-fsb-threats-seeks-u-s-help

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