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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    #2908

    I think he didn’t know whether I was kidding or not.

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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    • W Offline
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      Wim
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      #2909

      Just 5 hours ago Odessa was hit by Russian drones. The Chinese consulate was damaged.
      It appears that the drones contained Chinese components...

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        #2910

        I'd imagine most drones do.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          Wait a minute.

          I thought this war ended on January 21st, 2025. That was 24 hours after President Trump was inaugurated. Did I miss something?

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            #2912

            Interesting interview. The following quote among one or two others, stands out as to the disarray in Russia and Ukraine policy in the current Admin:

            — Also, the U.S. recently stopped supplying certain types of weapons to Ukraine. And this happened actually at the time when the situation, the battlefield is actually hard. Who or what do you think influenced this decision by the U.S.?

            — Deborah Kagan and I wrote a post which appears on the Atlantic Council website yesterday afternoon. You can get an answer there. But it's very clear this came from the Department of Defense. And if you've been following the American media closely or this issue closely, you know that Senator Shaheen and Representative McCaul have both said this is Elbridge Colby's initiative, the Undersecretary of Defense for Policy, who has long demonstrated he has no idea how dangerous Russia is to the United States. So the Pentagon did that. And again, Trump said yesterday there's no pause in American weapons to Ukraine. So this was clearly done without the approval of the White House. And it was particularly odd that it happened because Trump, again, last week at the NATO summit in The Hague said he would try and find the scarce air defense systems for Ukraine. He also talked about Russia being a problem. He also was behind the 5 percent new spending limit for NATO, which the Russians didn't like. He agreed to the communique, which said some of that spending can go to Ukraine. All things are very positive, very smart, strong, standing strong for American interests. So then to have this decision suddenly be taken right after Trump was doing all these things looks like the Defense Department was not paying attention to the policy of the president. And as someone who spent 31 years in the State Department, I know that's a very odd situation.

            So in this case, if there was a deep state at work, it was a deep state which was pushing pro-Russian policies and anti-American policies.

            https://english.nv.ua/amp/trump-s-mixed-signals-on-ukraine-aid-reflect-deeper-rift-says-ex-u-s-ambassador-50527462.html

            Elbows up!

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              #2913

              Yes, I just read that this morning. Very disorganized thinking on Trump's part, like his plan is "Miracle occurs here".

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/05/hegseth-weapons-shipments-ukraine

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                • MikM Mik

                  Yes, I just read that this morning. Very disorganized thinking on Trump's part, like his plan is "Miracle occurs here".

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                  @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                  Yes, I just read that this morning. Very disorganized thinking on Trump's part, like his plan is "Miracle occurs here".

                  Unless Trump is the "Miracle Maker"!

                  I wouldn't put it past him.

                  He is the "king" of America these days.

                  Flushing the toilet is like practicing the piano; you just cannot go too long without doing it.--Axtremus

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                  • Tom-KT Tom-K

                    @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                    Yes, I just read that this morning. Very disorganized thinking on Trump's part, like his plan is "Miracle occurs here".

                    Unless Trump is the "Miracle Maker"!

                    I wouldn't put it past him.

                    He is the "king" of America these days.

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                    @Tom-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                    He is the "king" of America these days.

                    And I think we all know what kind of King he is...

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                    I was only joking

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                    • Tom-KT Tom-K

                      @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      Yes, I just read that this morning. Very disorganized thinking on Trump's part, like his plan is "Miracle occurs here".

                      Unless Trump is the "Miracle Maker"!

                      I wouldn't put it past him.

                      He is the "king" of America these days.

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                      Mik
                      wrote last edited by
                      #2917

                      @Tom-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      Yes, I just read that this morning. Very disorganized thinking on Trump's part, like his plan is "Miracle occurs here".

                      Unless Trump is the "Miracle Maker"!

                      I wouldn't put it past him.

                      He is the "king" of America these days.

                      @Tom-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      Yes, I just read that this morning. Very disorganized thinking on Trump's part, like his plan is "Miracle occurs here".

                      Unless Trump is the "Miracle Maker"!

                      I wouldn't put it past him.

                      He is the "king" of America these days.

                      He does have a way of surprising.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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