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  • MikM Away
    MikM Away
    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #2068

    Spot on. Yet, many Americans will take his words at face value, something you can never, ever do with Putin.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
      wrote on last edited by
      #2069

      Seeing lots of news about how things are deteriorating for the Ukrainian effort to stop the Russian invasion.

      Many stories say that it's because of a lack of materiel being given to Ukraine...

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
        wrote on last edited by
        #2070

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
          wrote on last edited by
          #2071

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG George K

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            taiwan_girl
            wrote on last edited by taiwan_girl
            #2072

            @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

            Russian blogger says Russia shot down hits own plane!

            Russian forces have accidentally shot down their own £275 million spy plane over occupied Ukraine, pro-Kremlin military bloggers have said.

            Vladimir Romanov said that the Beriev A-50 Soviet-built plane crashed near the Sea of Azov after it was hit by a missile fired from Mariupol, the Ukrainian city that Russian forces captured in 2022.

            “The enemy has nothing to do with it again. The launches were from the Mariupol area,” he told his 140,000 followers. “After being hit by an air defence missile (not fired by the enemy), the A-50 broke into two parts.”

            https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/02/24/russia-shoots-down-own-spy-plane-pro-kremlin-bloggers-claim/

            Link to video

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            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

              @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

              Russian blogger says Russia shot down hits own plane!

              Russian forces have accidentally shot down their own £275 million spy plane over occupied Ukraine, pro-Kremlin military bloggers have said.

              Vladimir Romanov said that the Beriev A-50 Soviet-built plane crashed near the Sea of Azov after it was hit by a missile fired from Mariupol, the Ukrainian city that Russian forces captured in 2022.

              “The enemy has nothing to do with it again. The launches were from the Mariupol area,” he told his 140,000 followers. “After being hit by an air defence missile (not fired by the enemy), the A-50 broke into two parts.”

              https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/02/24/russia-shoots-down-own-spy-plane-pro-kremlin-bloggers-claim/

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              RenaudaR Offline
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              Renauda
              wrote on last edited by
              #2073

              @taiwan_girl

              Most embarrassing.

              My congratulations to the Duty Officer and battery that fired that rocket. Mentions in despatches and field promotions for all.

              Elbows up!

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              • MikM Away
                MikM Away
                Mik
                wrote on last edited by
                #2074

                I see a Siberian future in their crystal balls.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • RenaudaR Offline
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                  Renauda
                  wrote on last edited by Renauda
                  #2075

                  German Armed Forces has a communications security problem. Sloppiness. Seems that the Kremlin has its own cunning plans to take advantage of catching them with their trousers down:

                  Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Saturday that the discussion betrayed the "cunning plans" of the German armed forces, which he said had committed "a blatant self-exposure".

                  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68457087

                  Elbows up!

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                  • MikM Away
                    MikM Away
                    Mik
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #2076

                    That’s a lot of how we got ahead of them in WWII. One might think they’d have learned.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      George K
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                      #2077

                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/air-force-ukraine-downs-another-russian-su-34-jet/ar-BB1jeo8h

                      “The East Air Command confirms the downing of a Su-34 fighter-bomber. Unfortunately, it was only one,” the Air Forcewrote on Telegram.

                      The destruction of the jet is the latest in a recent uptick of downed Russian planes. This list includes 12 Su-34 fighter bombers, two Su-35 fighter jets, and a rare A-50 military spy plane. Another A-50 aircraft was downed a month prior.

                      Three Su-34s were reportedly destroyed in a single day on Feb. 29 over eastern Ukraine. Another Su-34 plane was downed on the morning of March 1, the Air Force said.

                      The rapid destruction of aircraft comes amid Russia's attempts to advance on the battlefield after the withdrawal of Ukrainian troopsfrom Avdiivka and three villages in Donetsk Oblast, in addition to Ukraine's widely mentioned ammunition shortage.

                      Yuriy Ihnat, the Air Force's spokesman, has said that Ukraine now has "tools" to destroy planes "at quite long distances," explaining the recent uptick.

                      Russia's total losses during the all-out war amount to about 670 aircraft — 345 planes and 325 helicopters, according to Ukraine's General Staff.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #2078

                        The Black Sea Submarine Fleet just got bigger.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Renauda
                          wrote on last edited by Renauda
                          #2079

                          Poland’s Foreign Minister, Radislaw Sikorski, administers terse rebuttal and “Come to Jesus” moment directly to the Russian Ambassador to the UN at the Security Council Plenum ten days ago:

                          Video:

                          https://news.sky.com/video/polish-foreign-minister-corrects-the-record-for-russia-in-un-security-council-meeting-13080530

                          Transcript:

                          https://www.gov.pl/web/diplomacy/minister-radoslaw-sikorski-deliveres-speech-at-the-un-security-council

                          Doubt if they showed that on RT or any TV news report in Russia. Wouldn’t hurt if a few politicians and interest groups in the West watched or paid close attention as well.

                          Elbows up!

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                          • George KG Offline
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                            George K
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #2080

                            Hamas insists permanent ceasefire needed for hostage deal

                            Hamas publicly insisted Tuesday that a permanent ceasefire must be in place before any deal is implemented for the release of the remaining 134 hostages held in Gaza, in a statement that seemed to run counter to optimism from Washington that an agreement was possible before the start of the holy month of Ramadan.

                            “In the past two days, the movement presented its position on the proposal put forward by the brotherly Qatari and Egyptian mediators,” senior Hamas official Osama Hamdan said in Beirut.

                            He spoke as ceasefire talks mediated by both Egypt and Qatar continued in Cairo with no sign of a breakthrough.

                            “We reaffirmed our conditions for a ceasefire: a full pullout from the Strip and the return of the displaced [Palestinians] from areas they left, in particular in the north,” he said.

                            Wasn't there a cease-fire in place on October 6?

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • RenaudaR Offline
                              RenaudaR Offline
                              Renauda
                              wrote on last edited by Renauda
                              #2081

                              @George-K

                              There might have been but Putin broke it?

                              George, you gotta work with me on this one. You may have posted this one in the wrong theatre of current wars.

                              Elbows up!

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                              • RenaudaR Renauda

                                @George-K

                                There might have been but Putin broke it?

                                George, you gotta work with me on this one. You may have posted this one in the wrong theatre of current wars.

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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #2082

                                @Renauda Whoopsie....

                                I'm just channeling my inner Joe Biden: confusing Gaza with Ukraine.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                  #2083

                                  @George-K

                                  Нет проблем, бывает говно.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                  • jon-nycJ Online
                                    jon-nycJ Online
                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #2084

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    • W Offline
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                                      Wim
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #2085

                                      Putin and Belgium....
                                      What a joke.
                                      https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/03/07/putin-falsely-claims-belgium-exists-largely-thanks-to-russia/

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                                      • RenaudaR Offline
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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #2086

                                        Actually a malicious joke.

                                        He’s blaming the Poles again. After all, Poland did start WWII.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          taiwan_girl
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #2087

                                          The below could go in many different forum threads but here is as good a place as any.

                                          https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/07/viktor-orban-to-visit-donald-trump-in-florida-hungary

                                          The longtime Hungarian prime minister, who has faced repeated criticism from the US government over democratic backsliding and his friendly relationship with the Kremlin, will be arriving in the US this week without an invitation from the White House.

                                          In an almost unheard-of move for a Nato country’s leader, he is not expected to meet anyone from the Biden administration.

                                          Instead, he is scheduled to speak on Thursday on a panel with the head of a conservative thinktank, the Heritage Foundation, before meeting Trump in Florida on Friday.

                                          and

                                          “Both Orbán and Putin’s communications focus on ‘peace’ negotiations, which would undoubtedly benefit the Russians,” Buda said, adding that “one cannot be wrong to assume that Orbán is ultimately lobbying the US on foreign policy in favour of Russia”.

                                          The Hungarian leader has publicly expressed his hope for a foreign policy shift in Washington and Brussels.

                                          and

                                          The Hungarian government – which maintains relationships with Moscow and Beijing, still employs former communist security officials and is known for its tendency to skew business competition at home – does not fit in well with traditional American conservatives. The late Republican John McCain described Orbán in 2014 as “a neo-fascist dictator”.

                                          Nevertheless, Orbán’s team have spent a significant amount of time and money on cultivating relationships with a different strand of US conservatives.

                                          The Hungarian government has in recent years hired US consultancies with conservative links to help improve its image.

                                          The Hungarian embassy in Washington has also been directly involved in the outreach: for example, it hosted the former Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy twice in the past year.

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