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    Mik
    wrote on 15 Feb 2024, 15:13 last edited by
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    For all the time and treasure we have put into analyzing the USSR and now Russia we seem to continually misunderstand them.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      Renauda
      wrote on 15 Feb 2024, 15:17 last edited by
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      Report from BBC on the same:

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68303231

      Elbows up!

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        Mik
        wrote on 15 Feb 2024, 15:54 last edited by
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        Spot on. Yet, many Americans will take his words at face value, something you can never, ever do with Putin.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          George K
          wrote on 20 Feb 2024, 01:03 last edited by
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          Seeing lots of news about how things are deteriorating for the Ukrainian effort to stop the Russian invasion.

          Many stories say that it's because of a lack of materiel being given to Ukraine...

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            George K
            wrote on 23 Feb 2024, 22:42 last edited by
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            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              George K
              wrote on 24 Feb 2024, 00:48 last edited by
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              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                23 Feb 2024, 22:42

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                taiwan_girl
                wrote on 24 Feb 2024, 17:59 last edited by taiwan_girl
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                @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                Russian blogger says Russia shot down hits own plane!

                Russian forces have accidentally shot down their own £275 million spy plane over occupied Ukraine, pro-Kremlin military bloggers have said.

                Vladimir Romanov said that the Beriev A-50 Soviet-built plane crashed near the Sea of Azov after it was hit by a missile fired from Mariupol, the Ukrainian city that Russian forces captured in 2022.

                “The enemy has nothing to do with it again. The launches were from the Mariupol area,” he told his 140,000 followers. “After being hit by an air defence missile (not fired by the enemy), the A-50 broke into two parts.”

                https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/02/24/russia-shoots-down-own-spy-plane-pro-kremlin-bloggers-claim/

                Link to video

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                  24 Feb 2024, 17:59

                  @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                  Russian blogger says Russia shot down hits own plane!

                  Russian forces have accidentally shot down their own £275 million spy plane over occupied Ukraine, pro-Kremlin military bloggers have said.

                  Vladimir Romanov said that the Beriev A-50 Soviet-built plane crashed near the Sea of Azov after it was hit by a missile fired from Mariupol, the Ukrainian city that Russian forces captured in 2022.

                  “The enemy has nothing to do with it again. The launches were from the Mariupol area,” he told his 140,000 followers. “After being hit by an air defence missile (not fired by the enemy), the A-50 broke into two parts.”

                  https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/02/24/russia-shoots-down-own-spy-plane-pro-kremlin-bloggers-claim/

                  Link to video

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on 24 Feb 2024, 19:28 last edited by
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                  @taiwan_girl

                  Most embarrassing.

                  My congratulations to the Duty Officer and battery that fired that rocket. Mentions in despatches and field promotions for all.

                  Elbows up!

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 24 Feb 2024, 21:30 last edited by
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                    I see a Siberian future in their crystal balls.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      Renauda
                      wrote on 2 Mar 2024, 23:59 last edited by Renauda 3 Mar 2024, 00:01
                      #2075

                      German Armed Forces has a communications security problem. Sloppiness. Seems that the Kremlin has its own cunning plans to take advantage of catching them with their trousers down:

                      Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Saturday that the discussion betrayed the "cunning plans" of the German armed forces, which he said had committed "a blatant self-exposure".

                      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68457087

                      Elbows up!

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 3 Mar 2024, 00:15 last edited by
                        #2076

                        That’s a lot of how we got ahead of them in WWII. One might think they’d have learned.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          George K
                          wrote on 3 Mar 2024, 00:21 last edited by
                          #2077

                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/air-force-ukraine-downs-another-russian-su-34-jet/ar-BB1jeo8h

                          “The East Air Command confirms the downing of a Su-34 fighter-bomber. Unfortunately, it was only one,” the Air Forcewrote on Telegram.

                          The destruction of the jet is the latest in a recent uptick of downed Russian planes. This list includes 12 Su-34 fighter bombers, two Su-35 fighter jets, and a rare A-50 military spy plane. Another A-50 aircraft was downed a month prior.

                          Three Su-34s were reportedly destroyed in a single day on Feb. 29 over eastern Ukraine. Another Su-34 plane was downed on the morning of March 1, the Air Force said.

                          The rapid destruction of aircraft comes amid Russia's attempts to advance on the battlefield after the withdrawal of Ukrainian troopsfrom Avdiivka and three villages in Donetsk Oblast, in addition to Ukraine's widely mentioned ammunition shortage.

                          Yuriy Ihnat, the Air Force's spokesman, has said that Ukraine now has "tools" to destroy planes "at quite long distances," explaining the recent uptick.

                          Russia's total losses during the all-out war amount to about 670 aircraft — 345 planes and 325 helicopters, according to Ukraine's General Staff.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 5 Mar 2024, 11:07 last edited by
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                            The Black Sea Submarine Fleet just got bigger.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Renauda
                              wrote on 5 Mar 2024, 22:12 last edited by Renauda 3 May 2024, 22:18
                              #2079

                              Poland’s Foreign Minister, Radislaw Sikorski, administers terse rebuttal and “Come to Jesus” moment directly to the Russian Ambassador to the UN at the Security Council Plenum ten days ago:

                              Video:

                              https://news.sky.com/video/polish-foreign-minister-corrects-the-record-for-russia-in-un-security-council-meeting-13080530

                              Transcript:

                              https://www.gov.pl/web/diplomacy/minister-radoslaw-sikorski-deliveres-speech-at-the-un-security-council

                              Doubt if they showed that on RT or any TV news report in Russia. Wouldn’t hurt if a few politicians and interest groups in the West watched or paid close attention as well.

                              Elbows up!

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                                George K
                                wrote on 6 Mar 2024, 01:17 last edited by
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                                Hamas insists permanent ceasefire needed for hostage deal

                                Hamas publicly insisted Tuesday that a permanent ceasefire must be in place before any deal is implemented for the release of the remaining 134 hostages held in Gaza, in a statement that seemed to run counter to optimism from Washington that an agreement was possible before the start of the holy month of Ramadan.

                                “In the past two days, the movement presented its position on the proposal put forward by the brotherly Qatari and Egyptian mediators,” senior Hamas official Osama Hamdan said in Beirut.

                                He spoke as ceasefire talks mediated by both Egypt and Qatar continued in Cairo with no sign of a breakthrough.

                                “We reaffirmed our conditions for a ceasefire: a full pullout from the Strip and the return of the displaced [Palestinians] from areas they left, in particular in the north,” he said.

                                Wasn't there a cease-fire in place on October 6?

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on 6 Mar 2024, 01:22 last edited by Renauda 3 Jun 2024, 01:26
                                  #2081

                                  @George-K

                                  There might have been but Putin broke it?

                                  George, you gotta work with me on this one. You may have posted this one in the wrong theatre of current wars.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    6 Mar 2024, 01:22

                                    @George-K

                                    There might have been but Putin broke it?

                                    George, you gotta work with me on this one. You may have posted this one in the wrong theatre of current wars.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 6 Mar 2024, 01:38 last edited by
                                    #2082

                                    @Renauda Whoopsie....

                                    I'm just channeling my inner Joe Biden: confusing Gaza with Ukraine.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on 6 Mar 2024, 02:22 last edited by Renauda 3 Jun 2024, 02:22
                                      #2083

                                      @George-K

                                      Нет проблем, бывает говно.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 7 Mar 2024, 03:58 last edited by
                                        #2084

                                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                                          Wim
                                          wrote on 7 Mar 2024, 21:52 last edited by
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                                          Putin and Belgium....
                                          What a joke.
                                          https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/03/07/putin-falsely-claims-belgium-exists-largely-thanks-to-russia/

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