The Ukraine war thread
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Putin wants to talk about ceasefire?
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/28053@Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:
Putin wants to talk about ceasefire?
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/28053I almost stopped reading at "Russia says," but I see that the US insists that Kyiv be part of the talks, and Putin said nyet.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:
Putin wants to talk about ceasefire?
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/28053I almost stopped reading at "Russia says," but I see that the US insists that Kyiv be part of the talks, and Putin said nyet.
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@Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:
Putin wants to talk about ceasefire?
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/28053I almost stopped reading at "Russia says," but I see that the US insists that Kyiv be part of the talks, and Putin said nyet.
@George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:
Putin wants to talk about ceasefire?
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/28053I almost stopped reading at "Russia says," but I see that the US insists that Kyiv be part of the talks, and Putin said nyet.
This issue was debated here three months ago in December. The US must be at the table along side Ukraine as honest broker, arbitrator and guarantor. It’s all about winning the peace.
https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/28373/the-zoomies-are-not-all-right/19?_=1707917152632
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The Kremlin has wasted no time in denying it made such an offer to the US:
That probably means that the report is true. Besides, Putin as much as said in his sermon/lecture to FuCa last week that he is prepared to negotiate Ukraine’s continued existence with any sitting US president. Makes sense, since Putin rejects the notion that Ukraine is a sovereign country or even exists.
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As John Bolton stated in a recent interview “Putin thought Trump was a fool who could be easily manipulable if he could get him the right situations”. Putin certainly recognized that Trump admired the other strong man leaders like Erdogan, Xi and Kim. Moreover, he saw Trump as a force set out to weaken if not altogether dissolve NATO.
Trump sold out the Kurds to Erdogan so why, in his little narcissistic brain, should the Ukrainians be not be sold out to Putin?
@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:
As John Bolton stated in a recent interview “Putin thought Trump was a fool who could be easily manipulable if he could get him the right situations”. Putin certainly recognized that Trump admired the other strong man leaders like Erdogan, Xi and Kim. Moreover, he saw Trump as a force set out to weaken if not altogether dissolve NATO.
Trump sold out the Kurds to Erdogan so why, in his little narcissistic brain, should the Ukrainians be not be sold out to Putin?
3D Chess by President Putin???????
https://apnews.com/article/russia-putin-biden-trump-fb2fece0be7685624a3e3e379a8a3bd3
Speaking in an interview with a correspondent of Russian state television, Putin declared that he will work with any U.S. leader who is elected, but noted unequivocally that he would prefer Biden’s victory when asked who would be a better choice from the point of view of Russia.
“Biden, he’s more experienced, more predictable, he’s a politician of the old formation,” Putin said. “But we will work with any U.S. leader whom the American people trust.”
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@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:
As John Bolton stated in a recent interview “Putin thought Trump was a fool who could be easily manipulable if he could get him the right situations”. Putin certainly recognized that Trump admired the other strong man leaders like Erdogan, Xi and Kim. Moreover, he saw Trump as a force set out to weaken if not altogether dissolve NATO.
Trump sold out the Kurds to Erdogan so why, in his little narcissistic brain, should the Ukrainians be not be sold out to Putin?
3D Chess by President Putin???????
https://apnews.com/article/russia-putin-biden-trump-fb2fece0be7685624a3e3e379a8a3bd3
Speaking in an interview with a correspondent of Russian state television, Putin declared that he will work with any U.S. leader who is elected, but noted unequivocally that he would prefer Biden’s victory when asked who would be a better choice from the point of view of Russia.
“Biden, he’s more experienced, more predictable, he’s a politician of the old formation,” Putin said. “But we will work with any U.S. leader whom the American people trust.”
@taiwan_girl said in The Ukraine war thread:
https://apnews.com/article/russia-putin-biden-trump-fb2fece0be7685624a3e3e379a8a3bd3
Speaking in an interview with a correspondent of Russian state television, Putin declared that he will work with any U.S. leader who is elected, but noted unequivocally that he would prefer Biden’s victory when asked who would be a better choice from the point of view of Russia.
GOP campaign ad - right there.
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@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:
As John Bolton stated in a recent interview “Putin thought Trump was a fool who could be easily manipulable if he could get him the right situations”. Putin certainly recognized that Trump admired the other strong man leaders like Erdogan, Xi and Kim. Moreover, he saw Trump as a force set out to weaken if not altogether dissolve NATO.
Trump sold out the Kurds to Erdogan so why, in his little narcissistic brain, should the Ukrainians be not be sold out to Putin?
3D Chess by President Putin???????
https://apnews.com/article/russia-putin-biden-trump-fb2fece0be7685624a3e3e379a8a3bd3
Speaking in an interview with a correspondent of Russian state television, Putin declared that he will work with any U.S. leader who is elected, but noted unequivocally that he would prefer Biden’s victory when asked who would be a better choice from the point of view of Russia.
“Biden, he’s more experienced, more predictable, he’s a politician of the old formation,” Putin said. “But we will work with any U.S. leader whom the American people trust.”
Traditionally the Kremlin has always preferred Republican administrations for their consistency in policy. I recall during the Carter administration following the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, a Soviet diplomat once saying something to the effect that “while the Republicans say bad things about us, the Democrats do bad things to us”. It was no secret that Brezhnev and Gromyko got along famously with Nixon and Kissinger and that Reagan and GWH Bush got on well with Gorbachev. The apparent close relationship between Clinton and Yeltsin was something of an anomaly and was actually fraught with a lot of behind the scenes disagreements that eventually led to lasting resentment.
My feeling then is that Peskov and the Kremlin are blowing smoke. Putin insisted a week ago that he has never spoken with Biden since the meeting in Switzerland prior to 24 February 2022 or, at least, can’t recall the last time he did. As Dr. George pointed out the Kremlin’s statement is a campaign ad for the GOP.
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Report from BBC on the same:
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@George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:
Russian blogger says Russia shot down hits own plane!
Russian forces have accidentally shot down their own £275 million spy plane over occupied Ukraine, pro-Kremlin military bloggers have said.
Vladimir Romanov said that the Beriev A-50 Soviet-built plane crashed near the Sea of Azov after it was hit by a missile fired from Mariupol, the Ukrainian city that Russian forces captured in 2022.
Link to video“The enemy has nothing to do with it again. The launches were from the Mariupol area,” he told his 140,000 followers. “After being hit by an air defence missile (not fired by the enemy), the A-50 broke into two parts.”
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@George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:
Russian blogger says Russia shot down hits own plane!
Russian forces have accidentally shot down their own £275 million spy plane over occupied Ukraine, pro-Kremlin military bloggers have said.
Vladimir Romanov said that the Beriev A-50 Soviet-built plane crashed near the Sea of Azov after it was hit by a missile fired from Mariupol, the Ukrainian city that Russian forces captured in 2022.
Link to video“The enemy has nothing to do with it again. The launches were from the Mariupol area,” he told his 140,000 followers. “After being hit by an air defence missile (not fired by the enemy), the A-50 broke into two parts.”
Most embarrassing.
My congratulations to the Duty Officer and battery that fired that rocket. Mentions in despatches and field promotions for all.
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German Armed Forces has a communications security problem. Sloppiness. Seems that the Kremlin has its own cunning plans to take advantage of catching them with their trousers down:
Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Saturday that the discussion betrayed the "cunning plans" of the German armed forces, which he said had committed "a blatant self-exposure".
