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  • jon-nycJ Online
    jon-nycJ Online
    jon-nyc
    wrote on last edited by
    #41

    I was against it from the very beginning but I also remember that as a key split I had with the left.

    I went to an anti-war rally and everyone there thought the war was unjust.

    I never thought it was unjust, I simply thought it was unwise.

    Many more people have come to that view, including quite a few who supported it at the time.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • RenaudaR Offline
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      Renauda
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      #42

      Ukrainian Air Force:

      https://kyivindependent.com/national/ukraines-old-air-defense-proves-unexpectedly-effective-in-combat/

      Elbows up!

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      • MikM Away
        MikM Away
        Mik
        wrote on last edited by
        #43

        Funny what happens when folks are defending their home.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
          wrote on last edited by
          #44

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • MikM Away
            MikM Away
            Mik
            wrote on last edited by
            #45

            That can't be good.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • LuFins DadL Offline
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              LuFins Dad
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              #46

              Well, no sense in being budget conscious for that May vacation now...

              The Brad

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              • RenaudaR Renauda

                @George-K

                They’ll find out soon enough that global market for sand is limited to local supply if it even exists.

                JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
                wrote on last edited by
                #47

                @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                @George-K

                They’ll find out soon enough that global market for sand is limited to local supply if it even exists.

                Actually...

                https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/05/sand-shortage-the-world-is-running-out-of-a-crucial-commodity.html

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • George KG George K

                  There's a site that tracks equipment losses by Russia and Ukraine. It only lists verified losses (photos, etc), and also breaks down whether the equipment was destroyed, damaged, or abandoned.

                  https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html

                  As of today:

                  Screen Shot 2022-03-16 at 8.28.29 AM.png

                  JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #48

                  @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                  There's a site that tracks equipment losses by Russia and Ukraine. It only lists verified losses (photos, etc), and also breaks down whether the equipment was destroyed, damaged, or abandoned.

                  https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html

                  As of today:

                  Screen Shot 2022-03-16 at 8.28.29 AM.png

                  You know what screams out from that list?

                  Helicopters.

                  For years, helicopters were touted as the answer to vertical envelopment and close combat air support. I think this war is going to make some people sit back and rethink some things.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #49

                    Interesting comparison of losses from yesterday vs today.

                    Screen Shot 2022-03-17 at 10.16.36 AM.png

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      Interesting comparison of losses from yesterday vs today.

                      Screen Shot 2022-03-17 at 10.16.36 AM.png

                      Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                      Aqua Letifer
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #50

                      @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      Interesting comparison of losses from yesterday vs today.

                      Screen Shot 2022-03-17 at 10.16.36 AM.png

                      Russians also have much more equipment to lose.

                      Please love yourself.

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                      • HoraceH Offline
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                        Horace
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                        #51

                        How did I not know that former top ranked heavyweight boxer Vitali Klitshko is the mayor of Kyiv? And Elon Musk is challenging homosexual Putin to Mano a Mano combat. Ridiculous.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                          @George-K

                          They’ll find out soon enough that global market for sand is limited to local supply if it even exists.

                          Actually...

                          https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/05/sand-shortage-the-world-is-running-out-of-a-crucial-commodity.html

                          RenaudaR Offline
                          RenaudaR Offline
                          Renauda
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #52

                          @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

                          @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                          @George-K

                          They’ll find out soon enough that global market for sand is limited to local supply if it even exists.

                          Actually...

                          https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/05/sand-shortage-the-world-is-running-out-of-a-crucial-commodity.html

                          Sand can be found on almost every country on Earth, blanketing deserts and lining coastlines around the world. But that is not to say that all sand is useful. Desert sand grains, eroded by the wind rather than water, is too smooth and rounded to bind together for construction purposes.

                          The sand that is highly sought after is more angular and can lock together. It is typically sourced and extracted from seabeds, coastlines, quarries and rivers around the world..

                          The good news is that Arab sand won’t make the cut.

                          I remember watching a business news report about six months on the growing demand for certain types of sand.

                          Elbows up!

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                          • George KG Offline
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                            George K
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #53

                            Much much more at the link.

                            RUSSIAN OFFENSIVE CAMPAIGN ASSESSMENT, MARCH 17

                            Key Takeaways

                            • Russian forces continue to make steady territorial gains around Mariupol and are increasingly targeting residential areas of the city.
                            • Ukrainian forces northwest of Kyiv launched several local counterattacks and inflicted heavy damage on Russian forces.
                            • Ukrainian forces repelled Russian operations around Kharkiv and reported killing a regimental commander.
                            • Ukrainian intelligence reports that Russia may have expended nearly its entire store of precision cruise missiles in the first twenty days of its invasion.
                            • Russian forces deployed unspecified reserve elements of the 1st Guards Tank Army and Baltic Fleet Naval Infantry to northeastern Ukraine on March 17.
                            • Russia may be parceling out elements of the reserve force that could conduct an amphibious operation along the Black Sea coast to support ongoing assaults on Mariupol, further reducing the likelihood of a Russian amphibious assault on Odesa.
                            • Ukrainian forces shot down 10 Russian aircraft—including five jets, three helicopters, and two UAVs—on March 16, and Ukrainian forces continue to successfully contest Russian air operations.

                            Russian forces face mounting difficulties replacing combat casualties and replacing expended munitions. The Ukrainian General Staff stated on March 17 that Russian forces will begin another wave of mobilization for the Donetsk People’s Republic’s (DNR) 1st Army Corps on March 20.[2] Ukrainian intelligence continued to report Russian forces face difficulties manning both combat and support units and increasing desertion rates.[3] The General Staff further reported that Russian forces are increasingly using indiscriminate weapons against residential areas because they used almost their entire supply of “Kalibr” and “Iskander” cruise missiles in the first 20 days of the invasion.[4] It is unclear if the Ukrainian General Staff means Russian forces have used almost all precision munitions earmarked for the operation in Ukraine or almost all missiles in Russia’s total arsenal—though likely the former.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • jon-nycJ Online
                              jon-nycJ Online
                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #54

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • HoraceH Offline
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                                Horace
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #55

                                5%ers that needed to be removed.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • MikM Away
                                  MikM Away
                                  Mik
                                  wrote on last edited by Mik
                                  #56

                                  This is an interesting interview and supports Jon's tweet..

                                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/putin-has-already-begun-to-cannibalize-his-own-regime-says-investigative-journalist/vi-AAVd6R3?ocid=msedgntp

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • George KG Offline
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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #57

                                    Today's Russian v Ukrainian losses compared to two days ago.

                                    Screen Shot 2022-03-18 at 9.20.54 AM.png

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      This is an interesting interview and supports Jon's tweet..

                                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/putin-has-already-begun-to-cannibalize-his-own-regime-says-investigative-journalist/vi-AAVd6R3?ocid=msedgntp

                                      RenaudaR Offline
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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #58

                                      @Mik

                                      Similar to your link above:

                                      https://euromaidanpress.com/2022/03/18/war-in-ukraine-day-23-russian-army-faces-increasing-desertion-rates-moves-to-exterminate-mariupols-civilian-infrastructure/

                                      Elbows up!

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                                      • MikM Away
                                        MikM Away
                                        Mik
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #59

                                        Thanks. Looks like good reporting.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • MikM Mik

                                          Thanks. Looks like good reporting.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #60

                                          @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                          Thanks. Looks like good reporting.

                                          Indeed. It also cites the website I mentioned that tracks losses on both sides.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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