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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
    wrote on last edited by
    #1623

    Sounds propaganda-ish to me.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
      wrote on last edited by
      #1624

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • MikM Offline
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        Mik
        wrote on last edited by
        #1625

        That boy just has no idea how to win friends and influence people. I still hope one day to see him hang.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • kluursK Offline
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          kluurs
          wrote on last edited by
          #1626

          launch. Wow!

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          • MikM Offline
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            Mik
            wrote on last edited by
            #1627

            Wow. If those are all shells, that's a lot of destruction.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • MikM Mik

              Wow. If those are all shells, that's a lot of destruction.

              RenaudaR Offline
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              Renauda
              wrote on last edited by Renauda
              #1628

              @Mik

              They’re the modern version of the WWII Katyusha rockets or as the Germans called the them,Stalin’s organowing to their peculiar sound when airborne. Essentially high explosive mortars with limited accuracy. German’s had a similar weapon, neibelwerfer.

              More:

              https://militaryhistorynow.com/2021/01/19/stalins-organ-10-things-you-didnt-know-about-russias-katyusha-rocket-2/

              Elbows up!

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
                wrote on last edited by
                #1629

                If those are MLRS, I think the accuracy and range may surprise you.

                https://www.army-technology.com/projects/mlrs/

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1630

                  Ukraine counteroffensive thread

                  https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1656727045076819969.html

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1631

                    "Norilsk is home to one of the largest nickel and palladium deposits in the world. These minerals are considered to be strategic resources and are therefore closely monitored and controlled by the Russian government. The mining and processing of these metals are conducted by Norilsk Nickel, a major Russian mining company that is responsible for a significant portion of the world's production of nickel and palladium. Additionally, the region is home to other valuable resources, such as copper and cobalt, which are also mined and processed in Norilsk. Due to the strategic importance of these materials, they are closely monitored and protected by both the company and the Russian government."

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      Mik
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1632

                      It would appear the Ukranian planning and strategy is light years ahead of Russia's.

                      Gosh, it's almost like someone's helping them. 😑

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • RenaudaR Offline
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                        Renauda
                        wrote on last edited by Renauda
                        #1633

                        Putin, a most dangerous fool:

                        https://czechia.postsen.com/trends/amp/131492

                        Elbows up!

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                        • RenaudaR Renauda

                          Putin, a most dangerous fool:

                          https://czechia.postsen.com/trends/amp/131492

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                          Wim
                          wrote on last edited by Wim
                          #1634

                          @Renauda This we already know for some time...

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                          • RenaudaR Renauda

                            Putin, a most dangerous fool:

                            https://czechia.postsen.com/trends/amp/131492

                            Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                            Aqua Letifer
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1635

                            @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                            Putin, a most dangerous fool:

                            https://czechia.postsen.com/trends/amp/131492

                            Option B would make him look better. He could rationalize that he would win a greater land grab, too.

                            Please love yourself.

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                            • MikM Offline
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                              Mik
                              wrote on last edited by Mik
                              #1636

                              Freedom of Russia Legion. Don't know how credible this is, 1945 being a very biased site, but it's not terribly hard to believe. I'd bet there are a whole lot of deserters and defectors.

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/how-the-ukraine-war-ends-putin-gets-crushed-by-guerilla-fighters/ar-AA1b8K1R?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=57dcfbb40c7a43f0b02539f1cf1beca7&ei=19

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                Putin, a most dangerous fool:

                                https://czechia.postsen.com/trends/amp/131492

                                Option B would make him look better. He could rationalize that he would win a greater land grab, too.

                                RenaudaR Offline
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                                Renauda
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1637

                                @Aqua-Letifer

                                Option B is not an option for either Ukraine or future European security. Any consideration of an outcome that would result in a neutral Ukrainian rump state is long past. Besides in the Kremlin playbook, neutrality is meaningless and in the case of Ukraine, the term only confirms that in Moscow’s mind, Ukraine has no right to exist in the first place.

                                Elbows up!

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                                • RenaudaR Renauda

                                  @Aqua-Letifer

                                  Option B is not an option for either Ukraine or future European security. Any consideration of an outcome that would result in a neutral Ukrainian rump state is long past. Besides in the Kremlin playbook, neutrality is meaningless and in the case of Ukraine, the term only confirms that in Moscow’s mind, Ukraine has no right to exist in the first place.

                                  Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                                  Aqua Letifer
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1638

                                  @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                  @Aqua-Letifer

                                  Option B is not an option for either Ukraine or future European security. Any consideration of an outcome that would result in a neutral Ukrainian rump state is long past. Besides in the Kremlin playbook, neutrality is meaningless and in the case of Ukraine, the term only confirms that in Moscow’s mind, Ukraine has no right to exist in the first place.

                                  Right. What I was trying to say was, Option A appears to be a more definitive loss for Russia. Option B would create a lot more uncertainty, so because the outcome would be more ambiguous, hey, might mean Russia could win some, who knows. Wouldn't that be preferable in Putin's mind over certain draw/defeat?

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                  • George KG Offline
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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1639

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • MikM Offline
                                      MikM Offline
                                      Mik
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1640

                                      That can't be good.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • RenaudaR Offline
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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1641

                                        Not at all.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • George KG Offline
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                                          George K
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #1642

                                          A bad day for the Russian Air Force.


                                          The Russian Air Force appears to have had one of its worst days of the war in more than a year on Saturday. While details remain limited and are likely to change, it appears Russia lost two Mi-8 Hip helicopters, a Su-34 Fullback strike fighter, and a Su-35 Flanker-E, with no survivors. What makes all this especially troubling for the Russian Air Force, is that all these losses happened in its own country, in areas not too far from the border with Ukraine.

                                          All four aircraft came down in Bryansk Oblast, well within Russian territory opposite northeast Ukraine’s Chernihiv Oblast. Video shows one of the Mi-8s breaking up after what looks as if a missile hits it near the town of Klintsy, about 50 kilometers north of the Ukrainian border.


                                          Some are saying friendly fire.

                                          So, there you go.

                                          image.jpeg

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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