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    Renauda
    wrote on 4 May 2023, 18:24 last edited by
    #1619

    Explosions over the Kremlin?
    https://open.substack.com/pub/snyder/p/explosion-over-the-kremlin?r=17wfy3&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

    Elbows up!

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      Mik
      wrote on 4 May 2023, 21:36 last edited by
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      The problem is you cannot believe a word they say. Even if they have video.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        George K
        wrote on 5 May 2023, 11:38 last edited by George K 5 May 2023, 11:43
        #1621

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          George K
          wrote on 5 May 2023, 14:07 last edited by
          #1622

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            George K
            wrote on 7 May 2023, 13:33 last edited by
            #1623

            Sounds propaganda-ish to me.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              George K
              wrote on 8 May 2023, 16:16 last edited by
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              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Mik
                wrote on 8 May 2023, 16:41 last edited by
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                That boy just has no idea how to win friends and influence people. I still hope one day to see him hang.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  kluurs
                  wrote on 11 May 2023, 03:46 last edited by
                  #1626

                  launch. Wow!

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 11 May 2023, 12:32 last edited by
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                    Wow. If those are all shells, that's a lot of destruction.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • M Mik
                      11 May 2023, 12:32

                      Wow. If those are all shells, that's a lot of destruction.

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                      Renauda
                      wrote on 11 May 2023, 14:40 last edited by Renauda 5 Nov 2023, 15:20
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                      @Mik

                      They’re the modern version of the WWII Katyusha rockets or as the Germans called the them,Stalin’s organowing to their peculiar sound when airborne. Essentially high explosive mortars with limited accuracy. German’s had a similar weapon, neibelwerfer.

                      More:

                      https://militaryhistorynow.com/2021/01/19/stalins-organ-10-things-you-didnt-know-about-russias-katyusha-rocket-2/

                      Elbows up!

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 11 May 2023, 14:57 last edited by
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                        If those are MLRS, I think the accuracy and range may surprise you.

                        https://www.army-technology.com/projects/mlrs/

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          George K
                          wrote on 11 May 2023, 21:28 last edited by
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                          Ukraine counteroffensive thread

                          https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1656727045076819969.html

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 11 May 2023, 21:29 last edited by
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                            "Norilsk is home to one of the largest nickel and palladium deposits in the world. These minerals are considered to be strategic resources and are therefore closely monitored and controlled by the Russian government. The mining and processing of these metals are conducted by Norilsk Nickel, a major Russian mining company that is responsible for a significant portion of the world's production of nickel and palladium. Additionally, the region is home to other valuable resources, such as copper and cobalt, which are also mined and processed in Norilsk. Due to the strategic importance of these materials, they are closely monitored and protected by both the company and the Russian government."

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 11 May 2023, 21:38 last edited by
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                              It would appear the Ukranian planning and strategy is light years ahead of Russia's.

                              Gosh, it's almost like someone's helping them. 😑

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                Renauda
                                wrote on 13 May 2023, 05:45 last edited by Renauda
                                #1633

                                Putin, a most dangerous fool:

                                https://czechia.postsen.com/trends/amp/131492

                                Elbows up!

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                                  13 May 2023, 05:45

                                  Putin, a most dangerous fool:

                                  https://czechia.postsen.com/trends/amp/131492

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                                  Wim
                                  wrote on 13 May 2023, 09:49 last edited by Wim
                                  #1634

                                  @Renauda This we already know for some time...

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                                    13 May 2023, 05:45

                                    Putin, a most dangerous fool:

                                    https://czechia.postsen.com/trends/amp/131492

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                                    Aqua Letifer
                                    wrote on 13 May 2023, 13:14 last edited by
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                                    @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                    Putin, a most dangerous fool:

                                    https://czechia.postsen.com/trends/amp/131492

                                    Option B would make him look better. He could rationalize that he would win a greater land grab, too.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 13 May 2023, 14:45 last edited by Mik
                                      #1636

                                      Freedom of Russia Legion. Don't know how credible this is, 1945 being a very biased site, but it's not terribly hard to believe. I'd bet there are a whole lot of deserters and defectors.

                                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/how-the-ukraine-war-ends-putin-gets-crushed-by-guerilla-fighters/ar-AA1b8K1R?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=57dcfbb40c7a43f0b02539f1cf1beca7&ei=19

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        13 May 2023, 13:14

                                        @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                        Putin, a most dangerous fool:

                                        https://czechia.postsen.com/trends/amp/131492

                                        Option B would make him look better. He could rationalize that he would win a greater land grab, too.

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on 13 May 2023, 15:06 last edited by
                                        #1637

                                        @Aqua-Letifer

                                        Option B is not an option for either Ukraine or future European security. Any consideration of an outcome that would result in a neutral Ukrainian rump state is long past. Besides in the Kremlin playbook, neutrality is meaningless and in the case of Ukraine, the term only confirms that in Moscow’s mind, Ukraine has no right to exist in the first place.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • R Renauda
                                          13 May 2023, 15:06

                                          @Aqua-Letifer

                                          Option B is not an option for either Ukraine or future European security. Any consideration of an outcome that would result in a neutral Ukrainian rump state is long past. Besides in the Kremlin playbook, neutrality is meaningless and in the case of Ukraine, the term only confirms that in Moscow’s mind, Ukraine has no right to exist in the first place.

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                                          Aqua Letifer
                                          wrote on 13 May 2023, 16:34 last edited by
                                          #1638

                                          @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                          @Aqua-Letifer

                                          Option B is not an option for either Ukraine or future European security. Any consideration of an outcome that would result in a neutral Ukrainian rump state is long past. Besides in the Kremlin playbook, neutrality is meaningless and in the case of Ukraine, the term only confirms that in Moscow’s mind, Ukraine has no right to exist in the first place.

                                          Right. What I was trying to say was, Option A appears to be a more definitive loss for Russia. Option B would create a lot more uncertainty, so because the outcome would be more ambiguous, hey, might mean Russia could win some, who knows. Wouldn't that be preferable in Putin's mind over certain draw/defeat?

                                          Please love yourself.

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