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  • J Jolly
    3 May 2023, 12:12

    A. Could be propaganda.
    B. Could be Russian drones.

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    Renauda
    wrote on 3 May 2023, 14:34 last edited by
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    @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

    A. Could be propaganda.
    B. Could be Russian drones.

    C. Could be Putin playing the victim and craving attention.
    D. Probably all of the above.

    Elbows up!

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      Mik
      wrote on 3 May 2023, 14:50 last edited by Mik 5 Mar 2023, 14:51
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      That's a lot of the problem. I see things all day long from Ukrainya Pravda. I don't believe they are any more reliable than RT. I'm not sure I believe most of what I read from US sources.

      You'd think they could have used some name other than Pravda. It comes with a lot of baggage.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • M Mik
        3 May 2023, 14:50

        That's a lot of the problem. I see things all day long from Ukrainya Pravda. I don't believe they are any more reliable than RT. I'm not sure I believe most of what I read from US sources.

        You'd think they could have used some name other than Pravda. It comes with a lot of baggage.

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        Renauda
        wrote on 3 May 2023, 15:22 last edited by
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        @Mik

        My understanding is the UP despite its name is fairly reliable with a moderate centre left bias in its editorials. Unlike RT which is wholly Kremlin owned and controlled, UP’s ownership appears to be held by private interests.

        I certainly do not rely on North American MSM for news on that part of the world. American think tanks and universities on the other hand, produce a lot of first rate information on the war much of which is posted to YouTube or their individual websites. Likewise Radio Liberty/Radio Free Europe offers good reporting and if nothing else provides good starting points for more in depth searching of specific items.

        Elbows up!

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          Renauda
          wrote on 4 May 2023, 18:24 last edited by
          #1619

          Explosions over the Kremlin?
          https://open.substack.com/pub/snyder/p/explosion-over-the-kremlin?r=17wfy3&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

          Elbows up!

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            Mik
            wrote on 4 May 2023, 21:36 last edited by
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            The problem is you cannot believe a word they say. Even if they have video.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              George K
              wrote on 5 May 2023, 11:38 last edited by George K 5 May 2023, 11:43
              #1621

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                George K
                wrote on 5 May 2023, 14:07 last edited by
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                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 7 May 2023, 13:33 last edited by
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                  Sounds propaganda-ish to me.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 8 May 2023, 16:16 last edited by
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                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 8 May 2023, 16:41 last edited by
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                      That boy just has no idea how to win friends and influence people. I still hope one day to see him hang.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        kluurs
                        wrote on 11 May 2023, 03:46 last edited by
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                        launch. Wow!

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 11 May 2023, 12:32 last edited by
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                          Wow. If those are all shells, that's a lot of destruction.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • M Mik
                            11 May 2023, 12:32

                            Wow. If those are all shells, that's a lot of destruction.

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                            Renauda
                            wrote on 11 May 2023, 14:40 last edited by Renauda 5 Nov 2023, 15:20
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                            @Mik

                            They’re the modern version of the WWII Katyusha rockets or as the Germans called the them,Stalin’s organowing to their peculiar sound when airborne. Essentially high explosive mortars with limited accuracy. German’s had a similar weapon, neibelwerfer.

                            More:

                            https://militaryhistorynow.com/2021/01/19/stalins-organ-10-things-you-didnt-know-about-russias-katyusha-rocket-2/

                            Elbows up!

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 11 May 2023, 14:57 last edited by
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                              If those are MLRS, I think the accuracy and range may surprise you.

                              https://www.army-technology.com/projects/mlrs/

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                George K
                                wrote on 11 May 2023, 21:28 last edited by
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                                Ukraine counteroffensive thread

                                https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1656727045076819969.html

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 11 May 2023, 21:29 last edited by
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                                  "Norilsk is home to one of the largest nickel and palladium deposits in the world. These minerals are considered to be strategic resources and are therefore closely monitored and controlled by the Russian government. The mining and processing of these metals are conducted by Norilsk Nickel, a major Russian mining company that is responsible for a significant portion of the world's production of nickel and palladium. Additionally, the region is home to other valuable resources, such as copper and cobalt, which are also mined and processed in Norilsk. Due to the strategic importance of these materials, they are closely monitored and protected by both the company and the Russian government."

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on 11 May 2023, 21:38 last edited by
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                                    It would appear the Ukranian planning and strategy is light years ahead of Russia's.

                                    Gosh, it's almost like someone's helping them. 😑

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on 13 May 2023, 05:45 last edited by Renauda
                                      #1633

                                      Putin, a most dangerous fool:

                                      https://czechia.postsen.com/trends/amp/131492

                                      Elbows up!

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                                        13 May 2023, 05:45

                                        Putin, a most dangerous fool:

                                        https://czechia.postsen.com/trends/amp/131492

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                                        Wim
                                        wrote on 13 May 2023, 09:49 last edited by Wim
                                        #1634

                                        @Renauda This we already know for some time...

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                                        • R Renauda
                                          13 May 2023, 05:45

                                          Putin, a most dangerous fool:

                                          https://czechia.postsen.com/trends/amp/131492

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                                          Aqua Letifer
                                          wrote on 13 May 2023, 13:14 last edited by
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                                          @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                          Putin, a most dangerous fool:

                                          https://czechia.postsen.com/trends/amp/131492

                                          Option B would make him look better. He could rationalize that he would win a greater land grab, too.

                                          Please love yourself.

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