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  • J Jolly
    3 May 2023, 12:12

    A. Could be propaganda.
    B. Could be Russian drones.

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    George K
    wrote on 3 May 2023, 12:24 last edited by
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    @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

    A. Could be propaganda.
    B. Could be Russian drones.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • R Renauda
      3 May 2023, 02:46

      @George-K

      China will, for the foreseeable future, strengthen regardless of what happens inside Russia.

      Although I am loathe to sound like a bean counting technocrat, after the trillion plus dollars, GBP and Euros in investment, technical assistance and humanitarian aid that the West has pumped into the USSR and The Russian Federation, why would the West want not wash its hands of the place?

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      Mik
      wrote on 3 May 2023, 12:29 last edited by
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      @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

      @George-K

      China will, for the foreseeable future, strengthen regardless of what happens inside Russia.

      Although I am loathe to sound like a bean counting technocrat, after the trillion plus dollars, GBP and Euros in investment, technical assistance and humanitarian aid that the West has pumped into the USSR and The Russian Federation, why would the West want not wash its hands of the place?

      “If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a dog and man.”

      ― Mark Twain

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        taiwan_girl
        wrote on 3 May 2023, 12:50 last edited by
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        https://www.yahoo.com/news/more-100-dolphins-feared-dead-152539781.html

        "Russian naval activity due to the war in Ukraine may have killed more than 100 dolphins in the Black Sea last month, scientists are reporting."

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        • J Jolly
          3 May 2023, 12:12

          A. Could be propaganda.
          B. Could be Russian drones.

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          Renauda
          wrote on 3 May 2023, 14:34 last edited by
          #1616

          @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

          A. Could be propaganda.
          B. Could be Russian drones.

          C. Could be Putin playing the victim and craving attention.
          D. Probably all of the above.

          Elbows up!

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            Mik
            wrote on 3 May 2023, 14:50 last edited by Mik 5 Mar 2023, 14:51
            #1617

            That's a lot of the problem. I see things all day long from Ukrainya Pravda. I don't believe they are any more reliable than RT. I'm not sure I believe most of what I read from US sources.

            You'd think they could have used some name other than Pravda. It comes with a lot of baggage.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • M Mik
              3 May 2023, 14:50

              That's a lot of the problem. I see things all day long from Ukrainya Pravda. I don't believe they are any more reliable than RT. I'm not sure I believe most of what I read from US sources.

              You'd think they could have used some name other than Pravda. It comes with a lot of baggage.

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              Renauda
              wrote on 3 May 2023, 15:22 last edited by
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              @Mik

              My understanding is the UP despite its name is fairly reliable with a moderate centre left bias in its editorials. Unlike RT which is wholly Kremlin owned and controlled, UP’s ownership appears to be held by private interests.

              I certainly do not rely on North American MSM for news on that part of the world. American think tanks and universities on the other hand, produce a lot of first rate information on the war much of which is posted to YouTube or their individual websites. Likewise Radio Liberty/Radio Free Europe offers good reporting and if nothing else provides good starting points for more in depth searching of specific items.

              Elbows up!

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                Renauda
                wrote on 4 May 2023, 18:24 last edited by
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                Explosions over the Kremlin?
                https://open.substack.com/pub/snyder/p/explosion-over-the-kremlin?r=17wfy3&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

                Elbows up!

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 4 May 2023, 21:36 last edited by
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                  The problem is you cannot believe a word they say. Even if they have video.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    George K
                    wrote on 5 May 2023, 11:38 last edited by George K 5 May 2023, 11:43
                    #1621

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 5 May 2023, 14:07 last edited by
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                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 7 May 2023, 13:33 last edited by
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                        Sounds propaganda-ish to me.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          George K
                          wrote on 8 May 2023, 16:16 last edited by
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                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 8 May 2023, 16:41 last edited by
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                            That boy just has no idea how to win friends and influence people. I still hope one day to see him hang.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              kluurs
                              wrote on 11 May 2023, 03:46 last edited by
                              #1626

                              launch. Wow!

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                                Mik
                                wrote on 11 May 2023, 12:32 last edited by
                                #1627

                                Wow. If those are all shells, that's a lot of destruction.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • M Mik
                                  11 May 2023, 12:32

                                  Wow. If those are all shells, that's a lot of destruction.

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on 11 May 2023, 14:40 last edited by Renauda 5 Nov 2023, 15:20
                                  #1628

                                  @Mik

                                  They’re the modern version of the WWII Katyusha rockets or as the Germans called the them,Stalin’s organowing to their peculiar sound when airborne. Essentially high explosive mortars with limited accuracy. German’s had a similar weapon, neibelwerfer.

                                  More:

                                  https://militaryhistorynow.com/2021/01/19/stalins-organ-10-things-you-didnt-know-about-russias-katyusha-rocket-2/

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 11 May 2023, 14:57 last edited by
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                                    If those are MLRS, I think the accuracy and range may surprise you.

                                    https://www.army-technology.com/projects/mlrs/

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 11 May 2023, 21:28 last edited by
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                                      Ukraine counteroffensive thread

                                      https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1656727045076819969.html

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 11 May 2023, 21:29 last edited by
                                        #1631

                                        "Norilsk is home to one of the largest nickel and palladium deposits in the world. These minerals are considered to be strategic resources and are therefore closely monitored and controlled by the Russian government. The mining and processing of these metals are conducted by Norilsk Nickel, a major Russian mining company that is responsible for a significant portion of the world's production of nickel and palladium. Additionally, the region is home to other valuable resources, such as copper and cobalt, which are also mined and processed in Norilsk. Due to the strategic importance of these materials, they are closely monitored and protected by both the company and the Russian government."

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          Mik
                                          wrote on 11 May 2023, 21:38 last edited by
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                                          It would appear the Ukranian planning and strategy is light years ahead of Russia's.

                                          Gosh, it's almost like someone's helping them. 😑

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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