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    Jolly
    wrote on 3 May 2023, 12:12 last edited by
    #1611

    A. Could be propaganda.
    B. Could be Russian drones.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • M Mik
      29 Apr 2023, 13:43

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/huge-fire-at-crimea-fuel-depot-after-drone-strike-authorities/ar-AA1aw35u?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=0c20db323ce94ed796d674483d8ab021&ei=42

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      George K
      wrote on 3 May 2023, 12:18 last edited by
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      @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/huge-fire-at-crimea-fuel-depot-after-drone-strike-authorities/ar-AA1aw35u?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=0c20db323ce94ed796d674483d8ab021&ei=42

      Moar fires...

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • J Jolly
        3 May 2023, 12:12

        A. Could be propaganda.
        B. Could be Russian drones.

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        George K
        wrote on 3 May 2023, 12:24 last edited by
        #1613

        @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

        A. Could be propaganda.
        B. Could be Russian drones.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • R Renauda
          3 May 2023, 02:46

          @George-K

          China will, for the foreseeable future, strengthen regardless of what happens inside Russia.

          Although I am loathe to sound like a bean counting technocrat, after the trillion plus dollars, GBP and Euros in investment, technical assistance and humanitarian aid that the West has pumped into the USSR and The Russian Federation, why would the West want not wash its hands of the place?

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          Mik
          wrote on 3 May 2023, 12:29 last edited by
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          @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

          @George-K

          China will, for the foreseeable future, strengthen regardless of what happens inside Russia.

          Although I am loathe to sound like a bean counting technocrat, after the trillion plus dollars, GBP and Euros in investment, technical assistance and humanitarian aid that the West has pumped into the USSR and The Russian Federation, why would the West want not wash its hands of the place?

          “If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a dog and man.”

          ― Mark Twain

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            taiwan_girl
            wrote on 3 May 2023, 12:50 last edited by
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            https://www.yahoo.com/news/more-100-dolphins-feared-dead-152539781.html

            "Russian naval activity due to the war in Ukraine may have killed more than 100 dolphins in the Black Sea last month, scientists are reporting."

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            • J Jolly
              3 May 2023, 12:12

              A. Could be propaganda.
              B. Could be Russian drones.

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              Renauda
              wrote on 3 May 2023, 14:34 last edited by
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              @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

              A. Could be propaganda.
              B. Could be Russian drones.

              C. Could be Putin playing the victim and craving attention.
              D. Probably all of the above.

              Elbows up!

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                Mik
                wrote on 3 May 2023, 14:50 last edited by Mik 5 Mar 2023, 14:51
                #1617

                That's a lot of the problem. I see things all day long from Ukrainya Pravda. I don't believe they are any more reliable than RT. I'm not sure I believe most of what I read from US sources.

                You'd think they could have used some name other than Pravda. It comes with a lot of baggage.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • M Mik
                  3 May 2023, 14:50

                  That's a lot of the problem. I see things all day long from Ukrainya Pravda. I don't believe they are any more reliable than RT. I'm not sure I believe most of what I read from US sources.

                  You'd think they could have used some name other than Pravda. It comes with a lot of baggage.

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on 3 May 2023, 15:22 last edited by
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                  @Mik

                  My understanding is the UP despite its name is fairly reliable with a moderate centre left bias in its editorials. Unlike RT which is wholly Kremlin owned and controlled, UP’s ownership appears to be held by private interests.

                  I certainly do not rely on North American MSM for news on that part of the world. American think tanks and universities on the other hand, produce a lot of first rate information on the war much of which is posted to YouTube or their individual websites. Likewise Radio Liberty/Radio Free Europe offers good reporting and if nothing else provides good starting points for more in depth searching of specific items.

                  Elbows up!

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                    Renauda
                    wrote on 4 May 2023, 18:24 last edited by
                    #1619

                    Explosions over the Kremlin?
                    https://open.substack.com/pub/snyder/p/explosion-over-the-kremlin?r=17wfy3&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

                    Elbows up!

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 4 May 2023, 21:36 last edited by
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                      The problem is you cannot believe a word they say. Even if they have video.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        George K
                        wrote on 5 May 2023, 11:38 last edited by George K 5 May 2023, 11:43
                        #1621

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          George K
                          wrote on 5 May 2023, 14:07 last edited by
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                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 7 May 2023, 13:33 last edited by
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                            Sounds propaganda-ish to me.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              George K
                              wrote on 8 May 2023, 16:16 last edited by
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                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Mik
                                wrote on 8 May 2023, 16:41 last edited by
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                                That boy just has no idea how to win friends and influence people. I still hope one day to see him hang.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  kluurs
                                  wrote on 11 May 2023, 03:46 last edited by
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                                  launch. Wow!

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on 11 May 2023, 12:32 last edited by
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                                    Wow. If those are all shells, that's a lot of destruction.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • M Mik
                                      11 May 2023, 12:32

                                      Wow. If those are all shells, that's a lot of destruction.

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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on 11 May 2023, 14:40 last edited by Renauda 5 Nov 2023, 15:20
                                      #1628

                                      @Mik

                                      They’re the modern version of the WWII Katyusha rockets or as the Germans called the them,Stalin’s organowing to their peculiar sound when airborne. Essentially high explosive mortars with limited accuracy. German’s had a similar weapon, neibelwerfer.

                                      More:

                                      https://militaryhistorynow.com/2021/01/19/stalins-organ-10-things-you-didnt-know-about-russias-katyusha-rocket-2/

                                      Elbows up!

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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on 11 May 2023, 14:57 last edited by
                                        #1629

                                        If those are MLRS, I think the accuracy and range may surprise you.

                                        https://www.army-technology.com/projects/mlrs/

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 11 May 2023, 21:28 last edited by
                                          #1630

                                          Ukraine counteroffensive thread

                                          https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1656727045076819969.html

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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