The Ukraine war thread

[Jolly]

A. Could be propaganda.
B. Could be Russian drones.

[George K]

@Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/huge-fire-at-crimea-fuel-depot-after-drone-strike-authorities/ar-AA1aw35u?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=0c20db323ce94ed796d674483d8ab021&ei=42

Moar fires...

[George K]

@Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

A. Could be propaganda.
B. Could be Russian drones.

[Mik]

@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

@George-K

China will, for the foreseeable future, strengthen regardless of what happens inside Russia.

Although I am loathe to sound like a bean counting technocrat, after the trillion plus dollars, GBP and Euros in investment, technical assistance and humanitarian aid that the West has pumped into the USSR and The Russian Federation, why would the West want not wash its hands of the place?

“If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a dog and man.”

― Mark Twain

[taiwan_girl]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/more-100-dolphins-feared-dead-152539781.html

"Russian naval activity due to the war in Ukraine may have killed more than 100 dolphins in the Black Sea last month, scientists are reporting."

[Renauda]

@Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

A. Could be propaganda.
B. Could be Russian drones.

C. Could be Putin playing the victim and craving attention.
D. Probably all of the above.

[Mik]

That's a lot of the problem. I see things all day long from Ukrainya Pravda. I don't believe they are any more reliable than RT. I'm not sure I believe most of what I read from US sources.

You'd think they could have used some name other than Pravda. It comes with a lot of baggage.

[Renauda]

@Mik

My understanding is the UP despite its name is fairly reliable with a moderate centre left bias in its editorials. Unlike RT which is wholly Kremlin owned and controlled, UP’s ownership appears to be held by private interests.

I certainly do not rely on North American MSM for news on that part of the world. American think tanks and universities on the other hand, produce a lot of first rate information on the war much of which is posted to YouTube or their individual websites. Likewise Radio Liberty/Radio Free Europe offers good reporting and if nothing else provides good starting points for more in depth searching of specific items.

[Renauda]

Explosions over the Kremlin?
https://open.substack.com/pub/snyder/p/explosion-over-the-kremlin?r=17wfy3&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

[Mik]

The problem is you cannot believe a word they say. Even if they have video.

[George K]

[George K]

[George K]

Sounds propaganda-ish to me.

[George K]

[Mik]

That boy just has no idea how to win friends and influence people. I still hope one day to see him hang.

[kluurs]

launch. Wow!

[Mik]

Wow. If those are all shells, that's a lot of destruction.

[Renauda]

@Mik

They’re the modern version of the WWII Katyusha rockets or as the Germans called the them,Stalin’s organowing to their peculiar sound when airborne. Essentially high explosive mortars with limited accuracy. German’s had a similar weapon, neibelwerfer.

More:

https://militaryhistorynow.com/2021/01/19/stalins-organ-10-things-you-didnt-know-about-russias-katyusha-rocket-2/

[Jolly]

If those are MLRS, I think the accuracy and range may surprise you.

https://www.army-technology.com/projects/mlrs/

[George K]

Ukraine counteroffensive thread

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1656727045076819969.html