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  • RenaudaR Renauda

    @George-K

    Not much to dispute there. It accurately describes and breaks down the Russian siege mentality. I also agree that the West’s current cancelling of Russian culture is a dangerous folly. It only serves to reinforce the siege mentality inside Russia.

    Since this war started I have wondered how Shostakovich would have viewed the situation. I am certain he would appalled and thoroughly depressed.

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    George K
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    #1534

    @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

    Not much to dispute there. It accurately describes and breaks down the Russian siege mentality

    That's why I linked it. It really dovetails with what you've posted in the past.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Mik
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      #1535

      I was searching for how many times Russia has been invaded and found this. It's something that simply is not in the American psyche, but certainly is in the Russian.

      https://now.tufts.edu/2022/03/31/long-history-russia-and-war

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Jolly
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        #1536

        T-55's?

        https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11890123/Desperate-Putin-70-brings-Soviet-era-T-55-tanks-old-retirement.html

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • MikM Offline
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          Mik
          wrote on last edited by
          #1537

          An interesting perspective. I rather agree. If the federation is that fragmented and weak whatever arises might be an improvement.

          I especially appreciate that China is not Putin's friend. Nations don't have friends. they have interests.

          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/prepare-for-the-disintegration-of-putin-s-russia/ar-AA18Y0NP?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=ad4e91b8b39447fdad42949e2b6f5adc&ei=16

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            Mik
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            #1538

            What Xi promised Putin - and most importantly what he did not.

            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/what-xi-promised-putin/ar-AA18XdCE?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=ab826fba62fd42649879a38a4ccc5155&ei=13

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              Jolly
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              #1539

              Wagner to refocus?

              https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11898015/Wagner-mercenaries-refocus-Africa-huge-losses-Ukraine-amid-fall-Putin.html

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • MikM Offline
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                Mik
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                #1540

                This Special Military Operation is falling apart.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  Mik
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                  #1541

                  And again, Putin's strategery backfires.

                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/norway-sweden-finland-and-denmark-struck-a-deal-to-run-their-200-advanced-fighter-jets-as-a-single-fleet-creating-a-new-headache-for-russia/ar-AA193L3E?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=35b9c79821a846c882166e26426f7db8&ei=11

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    George K
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                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Wim
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                      The drone surge?

                      https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambling/2023/03/24/russia-braces-for-attack-by-50000-ukrainian-kamikaze-drones-seeks-shotguns/

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                      • MikM Offline
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                        Mik
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                        #1544

                        Like that military shotgun they showed. What a home defense weapon!

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          George K
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                          Nukes in Belarus:

                          https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/25/putin-says-moscow-to-station-nuclear-weapons-in-belarus-for-the-first-time-since-the-1990s.html

                          Russia will station tactical nuclear weapons in neighboring Belarus, President Vladimir Putin said on Saturday, marking the first time since the mid-1990s that Moscow will have based such arms outside the country.

                          Putin made the announcement at a time of growing tensions with the West over the Ukraine war and as some Russian commentators speculate about possible nuclear strikes.

                          “Tactical” nuclear weapons refer to those used for specific gains on the battlefield rather than those with the capacity to wipe out cities. It is unclear how many such weapons Russia has given it is an area still shrouded in Cold War secrecy.

                          Experts told Reuters the development was significant since Russia had until now been proud that, unlike the United States, it did not deploy nuclear weapons outside its borders.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • MikM Mik

                            Like that military shotgun they showed. What a home defense weapon!

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by
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                            @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                            Like that military shotgun they showed. What a home defense weapon!

                            You can buy the Saiga in the U.S. I wouldn't want to come before the judge when the DA plops that nasty looking sucker on the evidence table.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                              Like that military shotgun they showed. What a home defense weapon!

                              You can buy the Saiga in the U.S. I wouldn't want to come before the judge when the DA plops that nasty looking sucker on the evidence table.

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                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1547

                              @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

                              I wouldn't want to come before the judge when the DA plops that nasty looking sucker on the evidence table.

                              image.jpeg

                              Here's Kyle...

                              Link to video

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                Like that military shotgun they showed. What a home defense weapon!

                                You can buy the Saiga in the U.S. I wouldn't want to come before the judge when the DA plops that nasty looking sucker on the evidence table.

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                                Mik
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1548

                                @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                Like that military shotgun they showed. What a home defense weapon!

                                You can buy the Saiga in the U.S. I wouldn't want to come before the judge when the DA plops that nasty looking sucker on the evidence table.

                                But just imagine all the zombies you could dispatch.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1549

                                  True.

                                  BTW, the only version available to us is the semi-auto version. No giggle switch for the masses.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1550

                                    With the right shot you could really grind up some human hamburger.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      George K
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                                      #1551

                                      Ukraine using JDAMs

                                      “As for the winged aerial bombs – JDAM, we use them as well,” Ihnat said.

                                      He added that Western-made bombs are extremely accurate and the Air Force uses them to deliver successful strikes against critical enemy targets. At the same time, Ihnat said that Ukraine could use more of them, suggesting that the current supply is insufficient.

                                      The Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM) is a conversion kit that can be strapped to a wide variety of conventional air-dropped bombs to give them guidance and control capabilities comparable to those of modern smart bombs.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
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                                        Bread for Bombs

                                        Russia is actively looking to acquire weapons and munitions from North Korea in exchange for food, a U.S. National Security Council official said.

                                        The potential arrangement is being brokered by a Slovakian arms dealer, NSC spokesman John Kirby said in a virtual briefing with reporters Thursday.

                                        "We remain concerned that North Korea will provide further support [of] Russia's military operations against Ukraine and we have new information that Russia is actively seeking to acquire additional munitions from North Korea," Kirby said.

                                        "We also understand that Russia is seeking to send a delegation to North Korea and that Russia is offering North Korea food in exchange for munitions," he added.

                                        "Russia has lost over 9,000 pieces of heavy military equipment since the start of the war, and thanks in part to multilateral sanctions and export controls, Putin has become increasingly desperate to replace them," Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen said in a statement about Russian President Vladimir Putin.

                                        "Schemes like the arms deal pursued by this individual show that Putin is turning to suppliers of last resort like Iran and the DPRK," she said.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          #1553

                                          Interesting.

                                          You were warned.

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