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    Wim
    wrote on 2 Mar 2023, 14:54 last edited by
    #1451

    (a) Story of the pot and the kettle

    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/03/02/moscow-says-clashed-with-ukrainian-saboteurs-in-russian-border-region-a80377

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    • W Wim
      2 Mar 2023, 14:54

      (a) Story of the pot and the kettle

      https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/03/02/moscow-says-clashed-with-ukrainian-saboteurs-in-russian-border-region-a80377

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      Mik
      wrote on 2 Mar 2023, 15:37 last edited by
      #1452

      @Wim Orwellian.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • M Mik
        2 Mar 2023, 15:37

        @Wim Orwellian.

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        Renauda
        wrote on 2 Mar 2023, 16:25 last edited by
        #1453

        @Mik

        Orwellian of course, but also a perfect example of Russian exceptionalism. How dare those Ukrainian Nazis!

        Elbows up!

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        • M Mik
          2 Mar 2023, 15:37

          @Wim Orwellian.

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          George K
          wrote on 3 Mar 2023, 12:51 last edited by
          #1454

          @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

          Orwellian.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • G George K
            3 Mar 2023, 12:51

            @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

            Orwellian.

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            Renauda
            wrote on 3 Mar 2023, 14:14 last edited by Renauda 3 Mar 2023, 14:16
            #1455

            @George-K

            The sad part about it is that Lavrov believes his own lies.

            Elbows up!

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              Renauda
              wrote on 3 Mar 2023, 17:35 last edited by
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              Wagner Group open youth club in St. Petersburg to foster patriotism and prep for war:

              https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/03/03/russias-wagner-mercenary-group-launches-youth-club-in-st-petersburg-a80387

              In Soviet times it was referred to as Komsomol, or league of young communists. This time round I guess it could be called The Prigozhin Youth.

              Quite the fiefdom within the kingdom the current Tsar’s favourite is building.

              Elbows up!

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                Renauda
                wrote on 3 Mar 2023, 22:26 last edited by
                #1457

                Interesting comments in Russian TV:

                Elbows up!

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                • R Renauda
                  3 Mar 2023, 22:26

                  Interesting comments in Russian TV:

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                  George K
                  wrote on 3 Mar 2023, 22:46 last edited by
                  #1458

                  @Renauda well, that's certainly interesting.

                  Do you think that this discussion came with approval from higher-up, or is it more likely that this commentator will suffer an unfortunate fall from an open window?

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • G George K
                    3 Mar 2023, 22:46

                    @Renauda well, that's certainly interesting.

                    Do you think that this discussion came with approval from higher-up, or is it more likely that this commentator will suffer an unfortunate fall from an open window?

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                    Renauda
                    wrote on 3 Mar 2023, 22:49 last edited by
                    #1459

                    @George-K

                    Difficult to say. It is only a snippet from the show and it could be a part of a patriotic rant.

                    Elbows up!

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 5 Mar 2023, 13:51 last edited by
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                      Crazy talk from Medvedev. Designed in hopes to make the west think twice?

                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/medvedev-russia-may-have-to-push-back-poland-s-border-for-peace/ss-AA184Ltk?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b62b69954c544d6c92ae970948095094&ei=11#image=1

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • M Mik
                        5 Mar 2023, 13:51

                        Crazy talk from Medvedev. Designed in hopes to make the west think twice?

                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/medvedev-russia-may-have-to-push-back-poland-s-border-for-peace/ss-AA184Ltk?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b62b69954c544d6c92ae970948095094&ei=11#image=1

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                        Renauda
                        wrote on 5 Mar 2023, 14:51 last edited by
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                        @Mik

                        Crazy talk but nothing substantially different from his usual jingoistic gibberish. He is restating Russia’s objective of obliterating the Ukrainian state. Medvedev has assumed the role of Goebbels in the histrionics arising out of this war.

                        Elbows up!

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                          Renauda
                          wrote on 5 Mar 2023, 17:21 last edited by Renauda 3 May 2023, 17:21
                          #1462

                          This war has had medieval tactics from its outset. Arguably Russian tactics could be referred or compared to a chevauchée.

                          Seems that shovels are being employed in a melee:

                          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64855760

                          Elbows up!

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                          • R Renauda
                            5 Mar 2023, 17:21

                            This war has had medieval tactics from its outset. Arguably Russian tactics could be referred or compared to a chevauchée.

                            Seems that shovels are being employed in a melee:

                            https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64855760

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                            George K
                            wrote on 5 Mar 2023, 17:28 last edited by
                            #1463

                            @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                            Arguably Russian tactics could be referred or compared to a chevauchée.

                            I saw that earlier.

                            From this tweet, it appears that their 21st century tactics aren't all that good either. Another friendly-fire?

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Renauda
                              wrote on 7 Mar 2023, 20:37 last edited by
                              #1464

                              Putin is stuck in the mud just he was last year about this time:

                              https://www.forces.net/comment/opinion-putin-stuck-mud-hitler?utm_source=Forces+Newsletter&utm_campaign=83dd021bc6-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2023_03_07_05_47&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_-83dd021bc6-[LIST_EMAIL_ID]

                              Elbows up!

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                                Mik
                                wrote on 7 Mar 2023, 20:58 last edited by
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                                The price of cherry-picking history.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • M Mik
                                  7 Mar 2023, 20:58

                                  The price of cherry-picking history.

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on 7 Mar 2023, 21:32 last edited by Renauda 3 Aug 2023, 01:33
                                  #1466

                                  @Mik

                                  That and not understanding the lessons of history. Not surprising though, as he grew up and was educated in a country that distorted history in a vain attempt to legitimize itself.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 8 Mar 2023, 01:22 last edited by
                                    #1467

                                    War Crime

                                    Warning: Graphic video.

                                    https://censor-net.translate.goog/ua/video_news/3403991/okupanty_vprytul_rozstrilyaly_bezzbroyinogo_ukrayinskogo_voyina_pislya_sliv_slava_ukrayini_video_21?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

                                    "The Russian military posted a video of the shooting of a captured soldier who refuses to take off his chevron with the national flag and dies with the words "Glory to Ukraine". If anyone recognizes this person and can tell where and under what circumstances he could have been captured, write to me. please. We must find out all the circumstances of this yet another terrible war crime committed by the Russian Federation," said Butusov's telegram

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • G George K
                                      8 Mar 2023, 01:22

                                      War Crime

                                      Warning: Graphic video.

                                      https://censor-net.translate.goog/ua/video_news/3403991/okupanty_vprytul_rozstrilyaly_bezzbroyinogo_ukrayinskogo_voyina_pislya_sliv_slava_ukrayini_video_21?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

                                      "The Russian military posted a video of the shooting of a captured soldier who refuses to take off his chevron with the national flag and dies with the words "Glory to Ukraine". If anyone recognizes this person and can tell where and under what circumstances he could have been captured, write to me. please. We must find out all the circumstances of this yet another terrible war crime committed by the Russian Federation," said Butusov's telegram

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                                      taiwan_girl
                                      wrote on 8 Mar 2023, 02:20 last edited by
                                      #1468

                                      @George-K Wow!!!

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 8 Mar 2023, 02:56 last edited by
                                        #1469

                                        Pure unadulterated balls. I am quite sure he is in Valhalla.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • M Mik
                                          8 Mar 2023, 02:56

                                          Pure unadulterated balls. I am quite sure he is in Valhalla.

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                                          Aqua Letifer
                                          wrote on 8 Mar 2023, 03:22 last edited by
                                          #1470

                                          @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                          Pure unadulterated balls. I am quite sure he is in Valhalla.

                                          Drengr. Hann er Drengr.

                                          Please love yourself.

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