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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    #132

    Fun thread to read. Let’s hope it’s true.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • jon-nycJ Online
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      jon-nyc
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      #133

      Interesting thread on RU army recruiting and ethnic makeup, with all the usual caveats.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        #134

        Saw on the news last night that the Ukranians are engaged in a few small offensive operations. And winning.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          #135

          I have been wondering if Ukraine would dare launch an assault into Russian territory and if so what that looks like? An assault on the disputed Donbas region? An assault on non-disputed Russian land?

          The Brad

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            Saw on the news last night that the Ukranians are engaged in a few small offensive operations. And winning.

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            George K
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            #136

            @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

            Saw on the news last night that the Ukranians are engaged in a few small offensive operations. And winning.

            Yup. Supposedly they've pushed the Russians out of a suburb of Kiev.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              I have been wondering if Ukraine would dare launch an assault into Russian territory and if so what that looks like? An assault on the disputed Donbas region? An assault on non-disputed Russian land?

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              Renauda
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              #137

              @LuFins-Dad said in The Ukraine war thread:

              I have been wondering if Ukraine would dare launch an assault into Russian territory and if so what that looks like? An assault on the disputed Donbas region? An assault on non-disputed Russian land?

              Not likely. As it is their plate is full defending their own territory.

              Elbows up!

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              • MikM Away
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                Mik
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                #138

                There would be no strategic advantage in taking Russian territory. I could see incursions to take out specific near-border military targets, but that is probably not achievable.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • MikM Mik

                  There would be no strategic advantage in taking Russian territory. I could see incursions to take out specific near-border military targets, but that is probably not achievable.

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                  #139

                  @Mik

                  Indeed, it would be used by the Kremlin as a cause to escalate. Not that Kremlin feels it needs an excuse.

                  Elbows up!

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                    #140

                    An attack on Moscow would do wonders for morale.

                    See Jimmy Doolittle

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                    • CopperC Copper

                      An attack on Moscow would do wonders for morale.

                      See Jimmy Doolittle

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                      #141

                      @Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      An attack on Moscow would do wonders for morale.

                      See Jimmy Doolittle

                      Japan didn't have nuclear weapons.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        Fun thread to read. Let’s hope it’s true.

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                        George K
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                        #142

                        @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                        Fun thread to read. Let’s hope it’s true.

                        More of this:

                        https://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-troops-are-now-turning-on-each-other-its-a-shtshow-one-soldier-is-recorded-telling-another?source=articles&via=rss

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          How can they have frostbite? I checked the weather in Ukraine and it seems to be pretty warm currently.

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                          • KlausK Klaus

                            How can they have frostbite? I checked the weather in Ukraine and it seems to be pretty warm currently.

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                            George K
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                            @Klaus said in The Ukraine war thread:

                            How can they have frostbite? I checked the weather in Ukraine and it seems to be pretty warm currently.

                            It's been colder in the previous 2 weeks.

                            https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/ukraine/kyiv/historic

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              George K
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                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                George K
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                                This sounds like it might be a big-ish deal:

                                curious 'container' that Ukrainian troops captured today looks to actually represent a significant Russian loss and a potential intelligence goldmine. What Ukraine's forces found looks to be a containerized command post that is part of the Krasukha-4 mobile electronic warfare system. The Krasukha-4 is primarily designed to detect and jam large radars, such as those on airborne early warning and control aircraft, such as the U.S. Air Force's E-3 Sentry, and spy satellites.

                                Ukrainian forces reportedly found this command post container outside of the capital Kyiv. Twitter user @UAWeapons was among the first to identify it as most likely being a component of the Krasukha-4 system, which is also known by nomenclature 1RL257, based on a picture that had emerged online. A complete Krasukha-4 consists of two vehicles, both based on the 8x8 KAMAZ-6350 truck, one with the electronic warfare (EW) system and the other carrying the command post module.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  George K
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                                  #147

                                  More on the ships:

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    Fun thread to read. Let’s hope it’s true.

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                                    George K
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                                    #148

                                    @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                    Fun thread to read. Let’s hope it’s true.

                                    More here from the NYT:

                                    Fascinating video and audio:

                                    https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/europe/100000008266864/russia-army-radio-makariv.html?smid=tw-share

                                    The best part is where a Ukrainian jammer whistles "Dixie..."

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      George K
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                                      #149

                                      The sinking of this ship is a HUGE deal.

                                      1. It's a supply ship and was docked at the port of one of the first cities to fall in the early days of the war.
                                      2. Secondary explosions destroyed a fuel dump and munitions dump.
                                      3. Getting that boat out of the way for another supply ship will be a major undertaking.
                                      4. Other ships that were damaged will need extensive repairs.
                                      5. The Ukrainians are silent on how they did it. Speculation runs from ballistic missile attach, to a commando raid. Keep the Russians guessing is the strategy.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                        Fun thread to read. Let’s hope it’s true.

                                        More here from the NYT:

                                        Fascinating video and audio:

                                        https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/europe/100000008266864/russia-army-radio-makariv.html?smid=tw-share

                                        The best part is where a Ukrainian jammer whistles "Dixie..."

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                                        Copper
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #150

                                        @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                        The best part is where a Ukrainian jammer whistles "Dixie..."

                                        racists

                                        They must be condemned

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                                          This is one of Russia's most capable Electronic Warfare Systems and potentially an intelligence goldmine.

                                          I guess it fell off the back of a truck. Did we send some Chicago gangsters over there to help?

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