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    Mik
    wrote on 21 Mar 2022, 22:00 last edited by
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    The world's response is unprecedented. While I abhor the loss of life and the accompanying misery, we are seeing something truly new in human history.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      George K
      wrote on 22 Mar 2022, 01:13 last edited by
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      Shooting civilians:

      Link to video

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • G George K
        22 Mar 2022, 01:13

        Shooting civilians:

        Link to video

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        Horace
        wrote on 22 Mar 2022, 01:35 last edited by
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        I would agree with the youtube comment that that wasn't intentionally lethal stuff, whatever it was.

        Education is extremely important.

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          George K
          wrote on 22 Mar 2022, 17:39 last edited by
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          6 days worth of losses:

          Screen Shot 2022-03-22 at 12.38.59 PM.png

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Jolly
            wrote on 22 Mar 2022, 19:09 last edited by
            #131

            Change in tactics.

            Look at Russian helicopter losses.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 23 Mar 2022, 06:14 last edited by
              #132

              Fun thread to read. Let’s hope it’s true.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 23 Mar 2022, 08:44 last edited by
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                Interesting thread on RU army recruiting and ethnic makeup, with all the usual caveats.

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 23 Mar 2022, 12:44 last edited by
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                  Saw on the news last night that the Ukranians are engaged in a few small offensive operations. And winning.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on 23 Mar 2022, 12:53 last edited by
                    #135

                    I have been wondering if Ukraine would dare launch an assault into Russian territory and if so what that looks like? An assault on the disputed Donbas region? An assault on non-disputed Russian land?

                    The Brad

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                    • J Jolly
                      23 Mar 2022, 12:44

                      Saw on the news last night that the Ukranians are engaged in a few small offensive operations. And winning.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 23 Mar 2022, 12:56 last edited by
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                      @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      Saw on the news last night that the Ukranians are engaged in a few small offensive operations. And winning.

                      Yup. Supposedly they've pushed the Russians out of a suburb of Kiev.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        23 Mar 2022, 12:53

                        I have been wondering if Ukraine would dare launch an assault into Russian territory and if so what that looks like? An assault on the disputed Donbas region? An assault on non-disputed Russian land?

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                        Renauda
                        wrote on 23 Mar 2022, 13:08 last edited by
                        #137

                        @LuFins-Dad said in The Ukraine war thread:

                        I have been wondering if Ukraine would dare launch an assault into Russian territory and if so what that looks like? An assault on the disputed Donbas region? An assault on non-disputed Russian land?

                        Not likely. As it is their plate is full defending their own territory.

                        Elbows up!

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 23 Mar 2022, 13:17 last edited by Mik
                          #138

                          There would be no strategic advantage in taking Russian territory. I could see incursions to take out specific near-border military targets, but that is probably not achievable.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • M Mik
                            23 Mar 2022, 13:17

                            There would be no strategic advantage in taking Russian territory. I could see incursions to take out specific near-border military targets, but that is probably not achievable.

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                            Renauda
                            wrote on 23 Mar 2022, 15:00 last edited by Renauda
                            #139

                            @Mik

                            Indeed, it would be used by the Kremlin as a cause to escalate. Not that Kremlin feels it needs an excuse.

                            Elbows up!

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                              Copper
                              wrote on 23 Mar 2022, 15:38 last edited by
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                              An attack on Moscow would do wonders for morale.

                              See Jimmy Doolittle

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                              • C Copper
                                23 Mar 2022, 15:38

                                An attack on Moscow would do wonders for morale.

                                See Jimmy Doolittle

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on 23 Mar 2022, 16:48 last edited by
                                #141

                                @Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                An attack on Moscow would do wonders for morale.

                                See Jimmy Doolittle

                                Japan didn't have nuclear weapons.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • J jon-nyc
                                  23 Mar 2022, 06:14

                                  Fun thread to read. Let’s hope it’s true.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 23 Mar 2022, 21:24 last edited by
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                                  @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                  Fun thread to read. Let’s hope it’s true.

                                  More of this:

                                  https://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-troops-are-now-turning-on-each-other-its-a-shtshow-one-soldier-is-recorded-telling-another?source=articles&via=rss

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Klaus
                                    wrote on 23 Mar 2022, 21:52 last edited by
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                                    How can they have frostbite? I checked the weather in Ukraine and it seems to be pretty warm currently.

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                                    • K Klaus
                                      23 Mar 2022, 21:52

                                      How can they have frostbite? I checked the weather in Ukraine and it seems to be pretty warm currently.

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 23 Mar 2022, 21:54 last edited by
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                                      @Klaus said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                      How can they have frostbite? I checked the weather in Ukraine and it seems to be pretty warm currently.

                                      It's been colder in the previous 2 weeks.

                                      https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/ukraine/kyiv/historic

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 24 Mar 2022, 11:09 last edited by
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                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 24 Mar 2022, 11:50 last edited by
                                          #146

                                          This sounds like it might be a big-ish deal:

                                          curious 'container' that Ukrainian troops captured today looks to actually represent a significant Russian loss and a potential intelligence goldmine. What Ukraine's forces found looks to be a containerized command post that is part of the Krasukha-4 mobile electronic warfare system. The Krasukha-4 is primarily designed to detect and jam large radars, such as those on airborne early warning and control aircraft, such as the U.S. Air Force's E-3 Sentry, and spy satellites.

                                          Ukrainian forces reportedly found this command post container outside of the capital Kyiv. Twitter user @UAWeapons was among the first to identify it as most likely being a component of the Krasukha-4 system, which is also known by nomenclature 1RL257, based on a picture that had emerged online. A complete Krasukha-4 consists of two vehicles, both based on the 8x8 KAMAZ-6350 truck, one with the electronic warfare (EW) system and the other carrying the command post module.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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