The Ukraine war thread

[Renauda]

@Doctor-Phibes

Unless someone sends me a specific link I avoid US media sources. Like you, I too follow the BBC reports as well several European sources in English. Our own CBC is not too bad although it is more or less BBC lite. For print media the National Post and Globe and Mail from time to time also provide some fairly decent analysis depending on the topic.

There are however some excellent US sources but they are not part of the slick media outlets. Rather they are found with various think tanks and specialised research institutes and schools that operate out of the country’s universities.

[bachophile]

I try to follow on Twitter people physically in Ukraine who are eyeballing the situation although there are not so many English speaking and most extremely anti Russian and therefore sometimes suspect in objectivity.

But for the usual news…all MSM. (an acronym I hate because it’s the one used by people at each end of the political spectrum when they don’t hear what they want to hear)

[George K]

Guess what?

That tweet has been deleted.

[Jolly]

You KIA 10K and that's a big deal. A really big deal.

[Renauda]

Especially when it all happened in the course of three weeks in a special military operation that was not meeting any resistance other than fraternal greetings and offerings of bread and salt to the troops.

MIL told spouse yesterday in their zoom call that the bodies are beginning to arrive home in the city for burial. Also no sugar or bleached office paper in to be had anywhere.

[Mik]

The world's response is unprecedented. While I abhor the loss of life and the accompanying misery, we are seeing something truly new in human history.

[George K]

Shooting civilians:

Link to video

[Horace]

I would agree with the youtube comment that that wasn't intentionally lethal stuff, whatever it was.

[George K]

6 days worth of losses:

[Jolly]

Change in tactics.

Look at Russian helicopter losses.

[jon-nyc]

Fun thread to read. Let’s hope it’s true.

[jon-nyc]

Interesting thread on RU army recruiting and ethnic makeup, with all the usual caveats.

[Jolly]

Saw on the news last night that the Ukranians are engaged in a few small offensive operations. And winning.

[LuFins Dad]

I have been wondering if Ukraine would dare launch an assault into Russian territory and if so what that looks like? An assault on the disputed Donbas region? An assault on non-disputed Russian land?

[George K]

@Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

Saw on the news last night that the Ukranians are engaged in a few small offensive operations. And winning.

Yup. Supposedly they've pushed the Russians out of a suburb of Kiev.

[Renauda]

@LuFins-Dad said in The Ukraine war thread:

I have been wondering if Ukraine would dare launch an assault into Russian territory and if so what that looks like? An assault on the disputed Donbas region? An assault on non-disputed Russian land?

Not likely. As it is their plate is full defending their own territory.

[Mik]

There would be no strategic advantage in taking Russian territory. I could see incursions to take out specific near-border military targets, but that is probably not achievable.

[Renauda]

@Mik

Indeed, it would be used by the Kremlin as a cause to escalate. Not that Kremlin feels it needs an excuse.

[Copper]

An attack on Moscow would do wonders for morale.

See Jimmy Doolittle

[Jolly]

@Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:

An attack on Moscow would do wonders for morale.

See Jimmy Doolittle

Japan didn't have nuclear weapons.