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  • MikM Away
    MikM Away
    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #1238

    Russia's economy set back 40 years.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/vladimir-putin-isn-t-just-losing-in-ukraine-he-s-set-russia-s-economy-back-40-years/ar-AA14gqKJ?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=d43a10973d4d4fe0b4c2cc5ae43c5ddb

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • MikM Away
      MikM Away
      Mik
      wrote on last edited by
      #1239

      Kherson resistance fighters

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/stealthy-kherson-resistance-fighters-undermined-russian-occupying-forces/ar-AA14hoPN?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=f81b74f2a58e481a96b18222bcb87e20

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • RenaudaR Offline
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        Renauda
        wrote on last edited by
        #1240

        Prepare for the long haul:

        https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/nato-long-haul-ukraine-1.6658147

        Elbows up!

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        • RenaudaR Offline
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          Renauda
          wrote on last edited by
          #1241

          First criminal cases for Russian conscripts who are refusing to fight:

          https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/11/21/first-criminal-case-opened-against-russian-conscripts-refusing-to-fight-a79448

          Elbows up!

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #1242

            They look well equipped:

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • W Offline
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              Wim
              wrote on last edited by
              #1243

              https://warsawinstitute.org/ukraine-launches-assault-on-the-strategic-kinburn-peninsula/
              Step by step...

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              • MikM Away
                MikM Away
                Mik
                wrote on last edited by
                #1244

                Ukraine seems to be very adept strategically and tactically. Excellent at cutting Russian resupply routes.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1245

                  Maybe he fell out of a window?

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG George K

                    Maybe he fell out of a window?

                    Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1246

                    @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                    Maybe he fell out of a window?

                    After being poisoned

                    I was only joking

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      Maybe he fell out of a window?

                      After being poisoned

                      George KG Offline
                      George KG Offline
                      George K
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1247

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      Maybe he fell out of a window?

                      After being poisoned

                      And committing suicide by stabbing himself…five times.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #1248

                        Moscow has expended nearly two-thirds of its ammunition reserves

                        The Russian offensive in Ukraine has stalled as Moscow has expended nearly two-thirds of its ammunition reserves, head of Estonian military intelligence Margo Grosberg told Estonian public broadcaster ERR on Nov. 25.

                        “The Russian Federation has used up about two-thirds of the ammunition it has, or slightly less than that,” Grosberg said.

                        Read also: Ukraine urges Russian troops to study rules of surrender
                        According to him, waning ammunition stocks explain a decrease in the offensive activity of Russian troops. He added that "for limited operations and with economical use of ammunition, Russia will have enough for about a month."

                        Estonian intelligence believes that Russia is now stockpiling ammunition – in preparation for a renewed offensive in Spring 2023.

                        Grosberg also noted that Russia is trying to purchase missiles and drones from Iran and North Korea, and is exporting ammunition from Belarus.

                        CNN earlier reported that the Iranian authorities also intend to supply the Kremlin regime with 1,000 short-range surface-to-surface ballistic missiles for the war against Ukraine.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • JollyJ Offline
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                          Jolly
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1249

                          GLSDB

                          https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/100-mile-strike-weapon-weighed-ukraine-arms-makers-wrestle-with-demand-sources-2022-11-28/

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • MikM Away
                            MikM Away
                            Mik
                            wrote on last edited by Mik
                            #1250

                            The beginning of the end?

                            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/oleksiy-yakubin-is-russia-slowly-embracing-realpolitik-in-ukraine/ar-AA14GpWr?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=02ceb2cf286348f3ad38048385bcc730

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

                            RenaudaR 1 Reply Last reply
                            • MikM Mik

                              The beginning of the end?

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/oleksiy-yakubin-is-russia-slowly-embracing-realpolitik-in-ukraine/ar-AA14GpWr?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=02ceb2cf286348f3ad38048385bcc730

                              RenaudaR Offline
                              RenaudaR Offline
                              Renauda
                              wrote on last edited by Renauda
                              #1251

                              @Mik

                              I would say more like Churchill’s assessment following Al Alamein and two days into Operation Torch:

                              “The end of the beginning”

                              Link to video

                              Elbows up!

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                              • MikM Away
                                MikM Away
                                Mik
                                wrote on last edited by Mik
                                #1252

                                He's not going to give it up without something where he can claim victory. If we want Russia out of Ukraine and Crimea, it's going to be a long slog. However painful, from an American perspective I think it's worthwhile to do so. Ukrainians may well have a different opinion.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  He's not going to give it up without something where he can claim victory. If we want Russia out of Ukraine and Crimea, it's going to be a long slog. However painful, from an American perspective I think it's worthwhile to do so. Ukrainians may well have a different opinion.

                                  RenaudaR Offline
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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1253

                                  @Mik

                                  No argument from me. If Ukrainians can continue hold out this winter despite ongoing Russian destruction of their energy infrastructure, they will prevail militarily. As for Russia it wins by losing. To quote Timothy Snyder:

                                  “Russia wins by losing. Russia really needs to lose this war, and to lose it decisively,” he said. “The whole colonial move towards Ukraine is a distraction, a substitute for the internal changes which Russia really has to make.”

                                  Elbows up!

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                                  • MikM Away
                                    MikM Away
                                    Mik
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1254

                                    The noose tightens?

                                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/nato-commits-to-future-ukraine-membership-drums-up-aid/ar-AA14G6V8?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a4a055b4943140d49b455ae1c3d3b4d1

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • George KG Offline
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                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1255

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • George KG Offline
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                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1256

                                        @darthputin is the best.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • MikM Away
                                          MikM Away
                                          Mik
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #1257

                                          What a bizarre conversation.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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