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    Mik
    wrote on 17 Nov 2022, 18:53 last edited by
    #1234

    Overkill?

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      Mik
      wrote on 17 Nov 2022, 19:47 last edited by
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      Cri-mea river.

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-s-swan-song-cri-me-a-river/ar-AA14dI33?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=073a2143db3b41d39ae0cf9d5b2d0d34

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • M Mik
        17 Nov 2022, 18:24

        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-colonel-found-dead-in-his-office-under-mysterious-circumstances-here-s-what-we-know/ar-AA14eux4?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b92f4cf697784a168939debebac993c4

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        Renauda
        wrote on 17 Nov 2022, 21:31 last edited by Renauda
        #1236

        @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-colonel-found-dead-in-his-office-under-mysterious-circumstances-here-s-what-we-know/ar-AA14eux4?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b92f4cf697784a168939debebac993c4

        Vladivostok is a tough mob controlled city where bribery of officials is normal and life is cheap. Could very well be that some mobster’s brat was called up and the deceased Colonel wouldn’t play the game unless he received more money. Could be that it some of local hoods were called up and simply didn’t want go. Could be that the deceased just didn’t show enough respect for a mob boss. Could be anything or nothing. He got whacked that’s all.,

        Doubt they will find out why he he got whacked and by whom - that they pronounced it a suicide suggests to me that the investigators were covered and paid well in advance.

        Elbows up!

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          George K
          wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 16:42 last edited by
          #1237

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Mik
            wrote on 19 Nov 2022, 13:54 last edited by
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            Russia's economy set back 40 years.

            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/vladimir-putin-isn-t-just-losing-in-ukraine-he-s-set-russia-s-economy-back-40-years/ar-AA14gqKJ?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=d43a10973d4d4fe0b4c2cc5ae43c5ddb

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              Mik
              wrote on 19 Nov 2022, 18:55 last edited by
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              Kherson resistance fighters

              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/stealthy-kherson-resistance-fighters-undermined-russian-occupying-forces/ar-AA14hoPN?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=f81b74f2a58e481a96b18222bcb87e20

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                Renauda
                wrote on 20 Nov 2022, 18:48 last edited by
                #1240

                Prepare for the long haul:

                https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/nato-long-haul-ukraine-1.6658147

                Elbows up!

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on 22 Nov 2022, 02:37 last edited by
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                  First criminal cases for Russian conscripts who are refusing to fight:

                  https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/11/21/first-criminal-case-opened-against-russian-conscripts-refusing-to-fight-a79448

                  Elbows up!

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                    George K
                    wrote on 23 Nov 2022, 12:58 last edited by
                    #1242

                    They look well equipped:

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Wim
                      wrote on 24 Nov 2022, 15:07 last edited by
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                      https://warsawinstitute.org/ukraine-launches-assault-on-the-strategic-kinburn-peninsula/
                      Step by step...

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 24 Nov 2022, 15:19 last edited by
                        #1244

                        Ukraine seems to be very adept strategically and tactically. Excellent at cutting Russian resupply routes.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          George K
                          wrote on 27 Nov 2022, 03:05 last edited by
                          #1245

                          Maybe he fell out of a window?

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • G George K
                            27 Nov 2022, 03:05

                            Maybe he fell out of a window?

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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on 27 Nov 2022, 03:25 last edited by
                            #1246

                            @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                            Maybe he fell out of a window?

                            After being poisoned

                            I was only joking

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                            • D Doctor Phibes
                              27 Nov 2022, 03:25

                              @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                              Maybe he fell out of a window?

                              After being poisoned

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                              George K
                              wrote on 27 Nov 2022, 03:44 last edited by
                              #1247

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in The Ukraine war thread:

                              @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                              Maybe he fell out of a window?

                              After being poisoned

                              And committing suicide by stabbing himself…five times.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 27 Nov 2022, 12:53 last edited by
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                                Moscow has expended nearly two-thirds of its ammunition reserves

                                The Russian offensive in Ukraine has stalled as Moscow has expended nearly two-thirds of its ammunition reserves, head of Estonian military intelligence Margo Grosberg told Estonian public broadcaster ERR on Nov. 25.

                                “The Russian Federation has used up about two-thirds of the ammunition it has, or slightly less than that,” Grosberg said.

                                Read also: Ukraine urges Russian troops to study rules of surrender
                                According to him, waning ammunition stocks explain a decrease in the offensive activity of Russian troops. He added that "for limited operations and with economical use of ammunition, Russia will have enough for about a month."

                                Estonian intelligence believes that Russia is now stockpiling ammunition – in preparation for a renewed offensive in Spring 2023.

                                Grosberg also noted that Russia is trying to purchase missiles and drones from Iran and North Korea, and is exporting ammunition from Belarus.

                                CNN earlier reported that the Iranian authorities also intend to supply the Kremlin regime with 1,000 short-range surface-to-surface ballistic missiles for the war against Ukraine.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 29 Nov 2022, 00:02 last edited by
                                  #1249

                                  GLSDB

                                  https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/100-mile-strike-weapon-weighed-ukraine-arms-makers-wrestle-with-demand-sources-2022-11-28/

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on 29 Nov 2022, 15:07 last edited by Mik
                                    #1250

                                    The beginning of the end?

                                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/oleksiy-yakubin-is-russia-slowly-embracing-realpolitik-in-ukraine/ar-AA14GpWr?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=02ceb2cf286348f3ad38048385bcc730

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • M Mik
                                      29 Nov 2022, 15:07

                                      The beginning of the end?

                                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/oleksiy-yakubin-is-russia-slowly-embracing-realpolitik-in-ukraine/ar-AA14GpWr?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=02ceb2cf286348f3ad38048385bcc730

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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on 29 Nov 2022, 16:21 last edited by Renauda
                                      #1251

                                      @Mik

                                      I would say more like Churchill’s assessment following Al Alamein and two days into Operation Torch:

                                      “The end of the beginning”

                                      Link to video

                                      Elbows up!

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 29 Nov 2022, 16:51 last edited by Mik
                                        #1252

                                        He's not going to give it up without something where he can claim victory. If we want Russia out of Ukraine and Crimea, it's going to be a long slog. However painful, from an American perspective I think it's worthwhile to do so. Ukrainians may well have a different opinion.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • M Mik
                                          29 Nov 2022, 16:51

                                          He's not going to give it up without something where he can claim victory. If we want Russia out of Ukraine and Crimea, it's going to be a long slog. However painful, from an American perspective I think it's worthwhile to do so. Ukrainians may well have a different opinion.

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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on 29 Nov 2022, 17:10 last edited by
                                          #1253

                                          @Mik

                                          No argument from me. If Ukrainians can continue hold out this winter despite ongoing Russian destruction of their energy infrastructure, they will prevail militarily. As for Russia it wins by losing. To quote Timothy Snyder:

                                          “Russia wins by losing. Russia really needs to lose this war, and to lose it decisively,” he said. “The whole colonial move towards Ukraine is a distraction, a substitute for the internal changes which Russia really has to make.”

                                          Elbows up!

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