“Due to mass refusal to participate in hostilities…”

[jon-nyc]

With the usual caveats.

[Mik]

I’ve long wondered what would happen if an army and populace simply refused to participate. We may be seeing a lot of this. If so, it is a sea change in history.

[Catseye3]

@Mik: >I’ve long wondered what would happen if an army and populace simply refused to participate. <

Me too! Did you ever see a movie called The Surrogate? I don't think there was refusal of the populace to participate, rather it resulted from countries' refusal to waste blood and treasure, but the plot was each of two countries (the US and an unnamed Asian nation, wonder who) each sent their top soldier to an island to fight it out to the death. It was really good!

Pretty sure Darrin McGavin played the American; I never learned the Asian actor's name.

[Axtremus]

@Catseye3 said in “Due to mass refusal to participate in hostilities…”:

Did you ever see a movie called The Surrogate? I don't think there was refusal of the populace to participate, rather it resulted from countries' refusal to waste blood and treasure, but the plot was each of two countries (the US and an unnamed Asian nation, wonder who) each sent their top soldier to an island to fight it out to the death.

Mortal Kombat

[Axtremus]

@Mik said in “Due to mass refusal to participate in hostilities…”:

... an army and populace simply refused to participate.

There was a "lie flat" movement in China where ordinary people just stopped working hard, stopped striving for anything. Don't hear about it now, probably in part because the CCP started censoring news regarding the movement.

[George K]

@Axtremus said in “Due to mass refusal to participate in hostilities…”:

There was a "lie flat" movement in China where ordinary people just stopped working hard, stopped striving for anything.

Any of them related to John Galt?

[Axtremus]

@George-K said in “Due to mass refusal to participate in hostilities…”:

@Axtremus said in “Due to mass refusal to participate in hostilities…”:

There was a "lie flat" movement in China where ordinary people just stopped working hard, stopped striving for anything.

Any of them related to John Galt?

Crucial difference is this:
The Galtese stopped working (in one place) because they're sick of the freeloaders.
The Lie-Flatters stopped trying because they see no hope of materially improving their lot regardless of what they do.

The Galtese never stopped trying, they just take their balls somewhere else (away from the freeloaders). The Lie-Flatters stopped trying altogether.

[LuFins Dad]

There’s no question in my mind that this war already represents a fundamental change in our shared history and future, but there are still multiple directions this can go…

[Jolly]

Hopefully, one of the better outcomes will prevail.

[Mik]

@LuFins-Dad said in “Due to mass refusal to participate in hostilities…”:

There’s no question in my mind that this war already represents a fundamental change in our shared history and future, but there are still multiple directions this can go…

Doesn’t seem they have eschewed old fashioned brutality yet.