Top Russian General Killed
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Black Sea fleet deputy commander killed in Ukraine
So u think the Ukrainians are getting real time intel on the location of top officers and picking them off, or just bad luck?
A lot of high ranking officers dead in the course of three weeks.
@bachophile said in Top Russian General Killed:
Black Sea fleet deputy commander killed in Ukraine
So u think the Ukrainians are getting real time intel on the location of top officers and picking them off, or just bad luck?
A lot of high ranking officers dead in the course of three weeks.
I've commented in another thread wondering the same thing. The Ukrainians have been claiming that they've stopped "hit squads" after Zelensky thanks to intel leaks from the FSB and even the SVR. It makes you wonder if that has anything to do with the heads of the various agencies being replaced and in some cases placed on house arrest?
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I saw a piece about this yesterday. These are volunteers of Belorussians living abroad and are against the Lukashenka regime. Not all that different than the Canadian volunteer brigades forming here and going over to Ukraine.
I have also read though, that Minsk is hesitant to send in its own troops to assist the Russians for fear of them mutinying and joining with the Ukrainian defenders.
@Renauda said in Top Russian General Killed:
I saw a piece about this yesterday. These are volunteers of Belorussians living abroad and are against the Lukashenka regime. Not all that different than the Canadian volunteer brigades forming here and going over to Ukraine.
I have also read though, that Minsk is hesitant to send in its own troops to assist the Russians for fear of them mutinying and joining with the Ukrainian defenders.
I thought that I had read that they actually had tried but some officers actually flat out refused?
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@Horace said in Top Russian General Killed:
Russia should stop storming cities with their generals on the front lines.
Maybe they watched LOTR.
@Klaus said in Top Russian General Killed:
@Horace said in Top Russian General Killed:
Russia should stop storming cities with their generals on the front lines.
Maybe they watched LOTR.
That was a low percentage move.
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@Jolly said in Top Russian General Killed:
Read an interview with a former U.S. Marine that had volunteered to fight.
What's the process for a random American with military experience to volunteer to fight in another country's war?
@Horace said in Top Russian General Killed:
What's the process for a random American with military experience to volunteer to fight in another country's war?
I had an uncle that retired and then joined the Israeli army.
He was among the first troops into Nagasaki after the bomb, then he had a career in insurance. He was Irish Catholic, but married a Jewish woman who died young from cancer. I believe joining the Israeli army was a gift to her.
Anyway, Israel had this program for foreigners to volunteer. I don't know if they still do. In his 60s I don't think he did any shooting, I think it was mostly administrative work.
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@Horace said in Top Russian General Killed:
What's the process for a random American with military experience to volunteer to fight in another country's war?
I had an uncle that retired and then joined the Israeli army.
He was among the first troops into Nagasaki after the bomb, then he had a career in insurance. He was Irish Catholic, but married a Jewish woman who died young from cancer. I believe joining the Israeli army was a gift to her.
Anyway, Israel had this program for foreigners to volunteer. I don't know if they still do. In his 60s I don't think he did any shooting, I think it was mostly administrative work.
@Copper said in Top Russian General Killed:
@Horace said in Top Russian General Killed:
What's the process for a random American with military experience to volunteer to fight in another country's war?
I had an uncle that retired and then joined the Israeli army.
He was among the first troops into Nagasaki after the bomb, then he had a career in insurance. He was Irish Catholic, but married a Jewish woman who died young from cancer. I believe joining the Israeli army was a gift to her.
Anyway, Israel had this program for foreigners to volunteer. I don't know if they still do. In his 60s I don't think he did any shooting, I think it was mostly administrative work.
cool.
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Deputy Commander Of Russia's Black Sea Fleet Reportedly Killed In Action
The deputy commander of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet has been killed in battle near the Ukrainian port city of Mariupol, the Kremlin-installed governor of the Russia-occupied city of Sevastopol said.
"Captain 1st Rank Andrei Nikolayevich Paly was killed in the fighting [near Mariupol]," Mikhail Razvozhayev said on his Telegram channel.
Reports said the general was 51 years old.
The Russian Navy did not respond to a request for comment.
Sevastopol, a port city on the Crimea Peninsula, is the base of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet. Crimea was seized and annexed by Russia in 2014.
If confirmed, it would mark the latest fatality among Russia’s top military officers following reports of several being killed in action during the invasion of Ukraine.
On March 19, an adviser to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy claimed that the commander of the Russian Eighth Army, Lieutenant General Andrei Mordvichev, had been killed at the Chornobaivka airfield near the city of Kherson.
The Ukrainian Presidency at the time said the general was the fifth top-ranking officer killed since the invasion began on February 24, an unprecedented number of fatalities among a military leadership in such a short period of time.
The claims could not be independently confirmed.
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Deputy Commander Of Russia's Black Sea Fleet Reportedly Killed In Action
The deputy commander of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet has been killed in battle near the Ukrainian port city of Mariupol, the Kremlin-installed governor of the Russia-occupied city of Sevastopol said.
"Captain 1st Rank Andrei Nikolayevich Paly was killed in the fighting [near Mariupol]," Mikhail Razvozhayev said on his Telegram channel.
Reports said the general was 51 years old.
The Russian Navy did not respond to a request for comment.
Sevastopol, a port city on the Crimea Peninsula, is the base of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet. Crimea was seized and annexed by Russia in 2014.
If confirmed, it would mark the latest fatality among Russia’s top military officers following reports of several being killed in action during the invasion of Ukraine.
On March 19, an adviser to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy claimed that the commander of the Russian Eighth Army, Lieutenant General Andrei Mordvichev, had been killed at the Chornobaivka airfield near the city of Kherson.
The Ukrainian Presidency at the time said the general was the fifth top-ranking officer killed since the invasion began on February 24, an unprecedented number of fatalities among a military leadership in such a short period of time.
The claims could not be independently confirmed.
@George-K said in Top Russian General Killed:
Deputy Commander Of Russia's Black Sea Fleet Reportedly Killed In Action
The deputy commander of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet has been killed in battle near the Ukrainian port city of Mariupol, the Kremlin-installed governor of the Russia-occupied city of Sevastopol said.
"Captain 1st Rank Andrei Nikolayevich Paly was killed in the fighting [near Mariupol]," Mikhail Razvozhayev said on his Telegram channel.
Reports said the general was 51 years old.
The Russian Navy did not respond to a request for comment.
Sevastopol, a port city on the Crimea Peninsula, is the base of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet. Crimea was seized and annexed by Russia in 2014.
If confirmed, it would mark the latest fatality among Russia’s top military officers following reports of several being killed in action during the invasion of Ukraine.
On March 19, an adviser to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy claimed that the commander of the Russian Eighth Army, Lieutenant General Andrei Mordvichev, had been killed at the Chornobaivka airfield near the city of Kherson.
The Ukrainian Presidency at the time said the general was the fifth top-ranking officer killed since the invasion began on February 24, an unprecedented number of fatalities among a military leadership in such a short period of time.
The claims could not be independently confirmed.
A Naval Commander sounds a little less unusual. My bet is he was on one of the ships attacking the city?
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@Horace said in Top Russian General Killed:
What's the process for a random American with military experience to volunteer to fight in another country's war?
I had an uncle that retired and then joined the Israeli army.
He was among the first troops into Nagasaki after the bomb, then he had a career in insurance. He was Irish Catholic, but married a Jewish woman who died young from cancer. I believe joining the Israeli army was a gift to her.
Anyway, Israel had this program for foreigners to volunteer. I don't know if they still do. In his 60s I don't think he did any shooting, I think it was mostly administrative work.
@Copper actually they do but as opposed to the past, they screen and vet carefully to avoid having crazies coming to wreak havoc.
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Petraeus:
"Former US army general and CIA director David Petraeus said Ukraine also has "good snipers" which are able to target key individuals when a Russian chain of command breaks down.
He said: "The communications have been jammed. The column gets stopped, and an impatient general goes forward to see what’s going on.
"There’s no initiative, no non-commissioned officer corps, no sense of initiative at junior levels. They wait to be told what to do, and the Ukrainians have very, very good snipers."
An anonymous diplomat also told Foreign Policy that generals were "struggling on the front line to get their orders through".
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@George-K said in Top Russian General Killed:
Ukrainian Propaganda?
One comment was, "Was it suicide or 'suicine'?"
Because of this the Commander of the 13th Regiment of the 4th Guards Tank Division allegedly committed suicide..
What did he know about the Clintons?
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Russian Army Commander General Vlaislav Yershov, of the 6th Combined Arms Army, has been identified as the general sacked earlier this week by Vladimir Putin.
It has been reported his abrupt dismissal was due to the heavy losses and strategic failures seen during the Russian military's month-long invasion of its neighbour.
He was identified by a Western official on Friday who also named the seven Russian generals they said had so far been killed in the 30 days since the Russian president ordered his troops into Ukraine on February 24.
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You should also ask yourself why top commanders are having to go to the front lines like that.
@Larry said in Top Russian General Killed:
You should also ask yourself why top commanders are having to go to the front lines like that.
Several people have commented that there's no equivalent of "NCO" in the Russian army. There is no training to take the initiative or to improvise. EVERYTHING comes from the top.
I think @Renauda can fill in more.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@Larry said in Top Russian General Killed:
You should also ask yourself why top commanders are having to go to the front lines like that.
Several people have commented that there's no equivalent of "NCO" in the Russian army. There is no training to take the initiative or to improvise. EVERYTHING comes from the top.
I think @Renauda can fill in more.
@George-K said in Top Russian General Killed:
@Larry said in Top Russian General Killed:
You should also ask yourself why top commanders are having to go to the front lines like that.
Several people have commented that there's no equivalent of "NCO" in the Russian army. There is no training to take the initiative or to improvise. EVERYTHING comes from the top.
Autocracies gonna autocrat.
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I am the very model of a modern Russian General
I headed up a convoy and it didn't really go so well
The mud and muck and broken trucks caused our mission to go straight to hell
The frozen rain and frostbite are causing all our toes to swell...Ok, somebody take the second stanza...
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