Why can't women understand thermostats?

[Jolly]

Do what a buddy of mine did...Have the electrician disconnect the wall thermostat, but leave it in place. Put your sensor in the return air duct, set it at 72 (or whatever you wish, within reason) and never touch it again...

[kluurs]

I NEVER touch the thermostat. I cannot be BLAMED.

[Klaus]

My favorite part of this issue is in the car.

I usually leave the temperature at 21°C (70F) all year round.

Winter, everyone is wearing three layers of clothing. It's 21°C in the car.
Wife: "Turn up the heating, I'm cold".

Summer, everyone is in shorts. It's 21°C in the car.
Wife: "It's too hot in here! Put the AC on max!"

[Renauda]

@George-K said in Why can't women understand thermostats?:

@LuFins-Dad said in Why can't women understand thermostats?:

“Why is the thermostat on 86?”

“I was cold and wanted to bump the temperature up to 72”

“Why didn’t you put it on 72?”

“Well this way is faster…”

Don't even start with THAT shit.

I have a 15 year old who applies the very same logic to the problem of home heating comfort.

[Axtremus]

@Klaus said in Why can't women understand thermostats?:

Winter, everyone is wearing three layers of clothing. It's 21°C in the car.
Wife: "Turn up the heating, I'm cold".

Summer, everyone is in shorts. It's 21°C in the car.
Wife: "It's too hot in here! Put the AC on max!"

May be reasonable. In the winter, the thick winter clothing coming in from the cold needs extra energe to warm up before the body feels the ambient temperature in the car. In the summer, the body that has been regulating for hot outdoor temperature needs to cool down before it regulates to ambient temperature in the car. Human biology is a lot more complicated than an electrical/mechanical temperature sensor. While the two may ultimately agree in steady state, it may still be tricky to manage the transients.

Does Mrs. Klaus conduct human physiological research, or you know another university researcher who does? Maybe work with that person on a grant application to study the above, you can contribute some artificial intelligence / machine learning bits to manage the transients. Might improve the marital relationships of huge number of couples. You can thank me in your paper when you publish.

[Axtremus]

@Jolly said in Why can't women understand thermostats?:

Do what a buddy of mine did...Have the electrician disconnect the wall thermostat, but leave it in place. Put your sensor in the return air duct, set it at 72 (or whatever you wish, within reason) and never touch it again...

I would love to put a temperature sensor in the return air duct just to see how its readings compare to the wall unit’s readings over time.

[mark]

@Axtremus said in Why can't women understand thermostats?:

@Jolly said in Why can't women understand thermostats?:

Do what a buddy of mine did...Have the electrician disconnect the wall thermostat, but leave it in place. Put your sensor in the return air duct, set it at 72 (or whatever you wish, within reason) and never touch it again...

I would love to put a temperature sensor in the return air duct just to see how its readings compare to the wall unit’s readings over time.

Sounds like a job for a Raspberry Pi Zero 2.

[Axtremus]

Nothing against the Raspberry Pi, just that are so many ready made, economically priced temperature sensors that are already prepackaged with Bluetooth or Wi-Fi, complete with bulk data export functionality and iOS/Android app support, that it makes little sense to reinvent the wheel with Raspberry Pi. :man-shrugging:

[mark]

@Axtremus well, I didn't say make a product with it. Just have fun.

I have fun doing DIY stuff like that. Usually learn something along the way.

[Ivorythumper]

@Klaus said in Why can't women understand thermostats?:

My favorite part of this issue is in the car.

I usually leave the temperature at 21°C (70F) all year round.

Winter, everyone is wearing three layers of clothing. It's 21°C in the car.
Wife: "Turn up the heating, I'm cold".

Summer, everyone is in shorts. It's 21°C in the car.
Wife: "It's too hot in here! Put the AC on max!"

IIRC, comfort also depends on relative humidity, and it’s drier in the winter which makes people feel colder, and wetter in the summer which makes people feel warmer. Latent heat of vaporization and thermodynamics explain this— drier air causes your body to wick more moisture which cools you down. Wetter air contains more heat which also prevents the cooling effect (depending on temp and relative humidity). Look up adiabetic process, which is what modern HVAC systems use to optimize comfort (which can involve both humidifiers and dehumidifiers). Our skin is one large evaporative cooler /heat exchanger.